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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Andre0087

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    Drunks eventually sober up...
     
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    huh; who runs the "Gaza Media Office?"
     
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    No such thing as an 'independent journalist'.
     
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    There is a place in between the continuum of censorship to propaganda where independent journalists live.
     
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    False. Everyone has an opinion on the topic and therefore are not independent.
     
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    So in your worldview, establishing what the truth is is an impossible task because the reporters of events have their own conscious and unconscious biases affecting their reporting of facts which ultimately obscures the truth?

    Neat.
     
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    What? Do you determine truth by having some random stranger tell you whats 'true'?
     
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    Random strangers? No. Members of established institutions including the press? Yes.
     
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    Hilarious. This MAGA spent the past 4 years spamming these forums of "independent journalists" who were about to expose Hunter Biden corruption. This dude made political corruption his entire MO. Now that his cult leader is robbing the treasury blind hes moved onto Hamas.

    If trump became pro hamas tomorrow all these cultists would do an 180. They have no core ideology other than worshiping their orange messiah
     
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    the press, established or not, has not been trustworthy since at least Y2K, likely much earlier. but that was the cycle when they clearly became cheerleaders.
     
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    That isn't accurate. Everyone has some inherent bias, but that doesn't mean they aren't independent. Their bias may interfere with their independence or it might not. They also may possess no opinion on what they are reporting at any given time. That becomes difficult if asked to analyze or dig deeper into an event.

    And on the flip side, you may not be independent, but still capable of giving unbiased opinions. It is just going to be viewed less reliably, unless that opinion is in contrast to the assumed bias due to your lack of independence.
     
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    I can’t figure out if it is an intentional lie to frame the issue or if it is brain rot from doom scrolling right wing talking points…. but I have not met a single person that supports Palestinian statehood that likes or supports Hamas. Roughly half the people I know or more are against the apartheid in Israel and the territories and none of them like Hamas.

    Humans are capable of disliking more than one thing, and can have nuanced opinions on topics.
     
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    It has just become a **** show of doom scrolling where ungodly biased sources (often not even professionals) offer biased at best and often complete lies that provide dopamine hits and after awhile these people don’t even realize they have been trained to hold an opinion and not question it.

    Consider that two of the most popular sources were actually paid by the Kremlin to make Russian centric media on the down low and release it to their audience. Not only did Poole and Johnson survive, their audience did not care they were being manipulated.

    The excuse is all media is biased - to justify our right lies being passed as truths.
     
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    I guess their kids are jealous that the western kids have more than one costume than a hamas scarf and bomb vest
    @tallanvor
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