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How do neo-cons / fake conservatives reconcile their fraudulent stances?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Oct 15, 2025.

  1. Amiga

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    Let’s first understand that “illegal” is not an official legal classification under U.S. immigration law. It’s a colloquial or political term, not a statutory one. As I mentioned before, the immigration laws Congress has passed since the Chinese Exclusion Act have become so complex and contradictory that even what counts as “illegal” is constantly debated in the courts. Congress could fix this, but Republicans have largely refused to act and have blocked major immigration reform legislation.

    Deportation mistakes do happen. What’s not acceptable is when the gov systematically fails to follow the ultimate law of the U.S, the Constitution, which explicitly guarantees due process. Denying due process is not a mistake. It is a policy that violates the U.S. Constitution. You say you support following the law, so do you support the current admin policies that bypasses due process?
     
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  2. Amiga

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    I get that you perceived that Democrats did that.

    Shouldn’t the bottom line be that political prosecution is wrong and shouldn’t be supported?

    Is it okay with you now? Do you actually support prosecution for political or revenge reasons?
     
  3. raining threes

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    The word illegal comes from breaking laws of this country. People entered the country illegally because they broke immigration laws which means they are here illegally.

    The number of mistakes are at an acceptable level and people who are victims of deportation can thank the libs for this because of their open border policies.

    We're never going to agree because I believe in borders, laws etc... you don't, so I am going to move along.
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    There are a lot of laws being broken currently.

    in fact when someone openly defrauds the public, Santos—-Trump forgives his illegal behavior despite the populace finding him guilty.

    Your stance has merit, illegal immigrstion is out of control, but you can’t cherry pick where something is illegal
     
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    Youre talking to a white boomer. Do you think he gives a **** if random people are being detained with no process? Of course not he knows his whiteness protects him from any danger which is why he thinks mistakes are acceptable.
     
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  6. jo mama

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    do you believe that people who break the law by assaulting police officers should be pardoned by the president?
     
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  7. Sajan

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    lol he is a model citizen who breaks zero laws.

    also does this fool think "libs" have some gate code for the border wall they open when they are in power?
    wtf is this dude on about.

    pure comedy man..
     
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  8. Sajan

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    no laws being broken here:
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    Selling pardons for millions of dollars and his cultists have the audacity to talk about accountability lol. Theyre just a bunch of low iq losers
     
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    Agreed
     
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    I believe Jan 6th was a setup and the Jan 6th'ers did time in jail. Some of them probably more time than they should've done.
     
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    What's the point of all lives matter if folks dont really believe in it or have exceptions?
     
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    The real question is that we were promised a new Blade movie
    But the activist woke people can’t write because they have zero creativity and it shocked them that Blade was already Black
     
  14. jo mama

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    do you believe that people who break the law by assaulting police officers should be pardoned by the president?

    if it was a set-up that means trump was involved in the set-up because he is the one who incited the insurrection. or if he wasnt involved in inciting the insurrection and it was a bunch of agent provocateurs as you seem to be claiming then why would trump pardon them?

    the lengths you go to defend and make excuses for trump is pretty bizarre. you listed four things you think are important for the government to be doing and i pointed out that trump is destroying/dismantling all four of those things and you say you dont have a problem with it. you say people who break the law should be held accountable, but youre good with trump pardoning people who assault cops.
     
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  15. Sajan

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    yo sick burn.

     
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    I believe they served more time than they should have and that some were jailed for months and they didn't attack anybody. Those that attacked LEO shouldn't have been pardoned IMHO. Also the cop that killed Ashley Babbit should also be put in jail. There's a reason the federal government settled her families lawsuit. The Babbit's got millions.
     
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    This Admin is doing everything they can to reimplement Slavery but by a different name

    Rocket River
     
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    They are children . . .. r****ded childern

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    which one is it? the people who assaulted police officers served more time than they should have (2-3 years is too much?) or they shouldnt have been pardoned?

    the cop that killed ashley babbit should absolutely not be put in jail. he did nothing wrong. he was defending sitting memebers of congress against a violent mob that was intent on harming or killing them. that officer actually showed alot of restraint by only shooting her. trumpers are lucky that more of those traitors were not shot that day as many of them deserved to be. we all know if it was a violent mob of left-wingers that they body count would have been much, much higher.

    the only reason that babbits family got millions was because the trump administration is trying to whitewash what happened that day and make it seem like those were patriots who attacked our nations capitol instead of the traitors and violent insurrectionists that the are.
     
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  20. Amiga

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    I used the legal definition in response to your question about whether I understand the term “illegal.” The fact is, there is no actual legal definition of “illegal” under U.S. immigration law. That shows you don’t understand what the legal definition is, and honestly, I don’t blame you. It is a mess. Even immigration lawyers struggle with it because the laws are full of contradictions. For example, someone can enter the country illegally but still legally claim asylum and stay here lawfully. Those are the current laws, which shows how inconsistent and confusing the system really is.

    Denying due process is not a mistake. It is a de facto policy that violates the Constitution. A mistake would be wrongfully jailing someone. A policy would be jailing people without giving them a chance to present their case. The latter means mistakes are not just possible but are built into the system and cannot be corrected.

    Actually, we may have more in common than you think. I support smart (for our economy) and efficient immigration reform that makes the law clear, streamlined, and fair, while strengthening our economy and keeping out criminals.
     

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