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How do neo-cons / fake conservatives reconcile their fraudulent stances?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Oct 15, 2025 at 2:23 PM.

  1. Andre0087

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    He's so amusing, I just don't have the heart to throw the simpleton on the ignore list.
     
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    His wife stays because she is being paid Millions to di so.
    Release the Epstein fules…and the proof is
    The border is the same as it has always been.
    “Flood the Zone” with law enforcement. Sure, put 5000 extra bodies on the streets of any city and crime will go down. Imagine doing that inside the 610 loop (Basically what they are doing in DC.).The problem? It is not sustainable. It cost atleast 1 million dollars a day for Federal/National Guard deployment in DC. I thought Trump was cutting spending? Who is going to pay fir it?
    There us no ME peace agreement
    , there is a temporary ceasefire. What Carter negotiated with Eygpt and Israel was a peace agreement. Trump doesn’t care, he wants optics.
     
  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    This

    I’ll add in that they’re addicted to hate/fear propaganda dopamine.
     
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  4. Sajan

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    Ok.
    Name the 8 wars.
     
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  5. mtbrays

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    No, I asked @GOATuve who usually posts the same thing over and over.
     
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  6. Amiga

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    Let’s do an academic exercise to imagine what this could really look like.

    If the U.S. had as little federal gov as possible, we’d strip it down to its constitutional core, only what’s absolutely required under the Constitution.

    That would leave just the three branches of gov, federal elections, tax collection (through a minimal Treasury Department), and a military command structure under the President. Everything else, all agencies, programs, and regulations not explicitly required, would disappear.

    There would be no FBI, CIA, NASA, EPA, IRS (as we know it), CDC, Medicare, Social Security, Department of Education, Department of Energy, FAA, or FCC. In other words, no social programs, no federal regulation of the environment, labor, housing, transportation, or communications, and no federal safety nets of any kind.

    The judicial system would shrink to a single Supreme Court, since the Constitution only requires that one court exist. All lower federal courts (district and appellate) could be abolished. There would also be no federal prosecutors, since prosecution is not a constitutionally mandated function, meaning no Department of Justice, no FBI investigations, and no U.S. Attorneys. Criminal law and prosecution would revert to the states entirely.

    Even the military would be drastically reduced. The Constitution only requires Congress to raise and support armies and maintain a navy, it doesn’t demand a large standing force. In this version, the U.S. would rely primarily on state militias (National Guards) rather than a permanent national army.

    Taxation would be minimal, collected only to pay for basic defense, diplomacy, and the most essential administration.

    There would also be no federal investment of any kind. No government-funded R&D, no cancer research, no space exploration, no advance military defense, and no funding for technological or scientific advancement. All research and innovation would have to come from private companies, universities, or individuals.

    Practically, that would mean:
    No interstate highway system, roads would be built and maintained by the states.
    No air traffic control or FAA oversight, airlines would self-regulate or follow state rules.
    No federal disaster response, every state would handle its own emergencies and funding for them.
    No national health agencies, pandemics would be handled state by state.
    No space program, no environmental protections, no federal student loans or grants.
    Even the postal service could be reduced to a chartered, semi-private delivery network, since Congress is only required to “establish” one, not operate it.

    The federal gov would exist mainly to collect limited taxes, manage foreign relations, settle constitutional disputes, and provide basic national defense. Everything else, from roads to education to healthcare, would be entirely up to the states or private sector.

    Sounds like a dream for true libertarians. So, is this what you desire?

    P.S. To be clear, this current administration is bigger gov, not smaller. The budget has gotten larger, the military is expanding faster, and private citizens are being monitored and suppressed, with prosecutions occurring more politically and haphazardly.
     
  7. Sajan

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    He just wants to make broad incorrect statements.
     
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  8. dobro1229

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    They reconcile their fraudulent stances because they want power at all costs, and if it makes the pro-democracy folks upset then it makes them feel good about themselves because more than anything... MAGA people HATE liberals. They will shift from night to day in an instance if they think it'll make me or you upset, and they think that about-face will bring them a drop of power.

    These people will denounce Jesus before leaving MAGA.... which if we are being honest... ALL MAGA people, and Christian Nationalists especially have already denounced Jesus in many ways. MAGA is their identity now far more than Jesus ever was.

    It's just that simple. It's about power, hate, and retribution for millions of people who are afraid of losing an ounce of their privilege in life.
     
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  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    It took me a while to realize it despite it being blasted for a while…

    but MAGA and modern republicans are nothing but white Christian nationalists. Despite anything more superficial that’s all the motivations boil down to
     
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  10. raining threes

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    Pretty much

    The things I expect the govt to safety/infrastructure/health and space research.

    You want more govt in your life?

    Reagan said it best, the scariest phrase in the world is, I'm from the Federal Govt and I'm here to help.
     
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    There's nothing incorrect about the way I would choose to live my life if given a chance.
     
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    Google is your friend.

    BTW, I bet you wont even give Trump credit for helping end the Isreali/Hamas war, despite Trump being universally praised around the globe for helping end the conflict.
     
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    LMAO, Although I agree with your last point.

    Carter though? LMAO, worst POTUS ever, but probably the best human being to ever be POTUS.
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    That’s hardly been theme of actions for this administration, imo.

    I’d imagine a principled person with this take would be quite annoyed

    Google can say anything, it was your claim why can’t you provide the details of your own claim?
     
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  15. Sajan

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    I want to confirm my list with yours because I am coming up about 7 wars short.

    EDIT: here's my research you sent me off to do.

    Israel-Hamas (Gaza War)

    Israel-Iran (12-Day War)
    -both sides threaten resumption.

    DRC-Rwanda (Eastern Congo Conflict)
    -Violations reported since—attacks and troop buildups continue; broader economic deal stalled.

    India-Pakistan (Kashmir Skirmishes)
    -India denies Trump's involvement, crediting direct bilateral talks

    Armenia-Azerbaijan (Nagorno-Karabakh)
    - Not a "war"—small-scale border fight.

    Egypt-Ethiopia (Nile Dam Dispute)
    -Ethiopian officials baffled—no shooting war occurred

    Serbia-Kosovo
    -Serbia denies war plans

    So again, what are these 8 wars you claim?
    And here I am giving Trump credit for one of them.
     
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  16. astros123

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    The fact that he told you to Google it without spending 1 minute googling his claims before he posted them just shows how far they are. They swallow all of his propoganda without verifying anything
     
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  17. FrontRunner

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    When your fellow cult members won't even come to your defense with some lame YouTube video from some wannabe Nazi no one has ever heard of, or with an unsubstantiated X post, that should tell you something about your claims.
     
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  18. Sajan

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    He saw it on twitter and cannot fathom that his savior/cult leaders would possibly mislead or lie to him.

    Surely his fellow clutchfans brethen are the liars. Ya that makes more sense.
     
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  19. Amiga

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    Then what you are really describing is more than “as little federal gov as constitutionally required.” I didn’t list everything, but I specifically mentioned that there would be no federal research and implied no infrastructure. On safety, there would only be the bare minimum, with no standing army. There would also be no border control or immigration enforcement. In fact, at its founding, the Constitution left borders effectively open, and the country literally operated with open borders.

    I’m not sure what you mean by “more gov in your life.” Even a bare-minimum federal gov is involved in your life because it collects taxes and protects basic rights. The function of gov is inherently part of your life - it provides protection and guarantees certain basic rights, even at the minimal constitutional level.

    I won’t comment on political slogans, so I have no response to the Reagan phrase.
     
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  20. Amiga

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    Never heard of the others and don’t know much about them. But...

    The Gaza War has not ended. It is currently under a cease-fire, the 3rd in its history. Hopefully it holds indefinitely and there is a peace agreement, ending the war, but to say it has ended would be incorrect.

    The 12-day limited military confrontation (I wouldn’t call it a war; both sides postured heavily for domestic and international audiences, but neither wanted a full-scale war- it was a controlled confrontation) has ended, but the Iran Israel proxy conflict continues. Ending that proxy conflict (including with the US involvement) would be a major victory for regional stability. Of course, Iran-backed militant satellites remain active in destabilizing the region, and US resources are still engaged in countering them.
     
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