If they don't have control of anything to do with their country, and future then they really don't exist. This BS line is just a way to make it sound like you aren't saying what we all know you are saying.
Like all things with Trump that are like this... .... why don't you go ahead, and pin that one for later lol. I'm sure we'll come back to that for a good chuckle. That much is for certain.
" you have to give a country to the people who want wipe all the jews and christians off the face of the earth or else there will still be war in the world "
I want palestinian culture to not exist the same way i want viking, aztec, and commanche culture not to exist. I have no desire to wipe out palestinians. I want them to evolve like many other muslim countries have in recent years. Until they do, they obviously cant have a country. They would just rape and start wars with their neighbors as they always have. Would be pointless.
@Salvy @ROXRAN @RB713 breh the Aztecs contributed to society unlike the Palestinians They made pyramids They did astronomy And all that other stuff the aliens taught them
My personal experience is that the Palestinians and Israelis hate each other (and for legitimate reasons). But I never had the sense that Palestinians (or Israelis) wanted to exterminate anyone beyond forcibly removing the other from what they believe is rightfully only theirs. But alas the two groups both still exist and will have to figure out how to coexist. I asked Gemini that question and its response is pasted below. The Palestinian people hold a range of political and religious views, and it is inaccurate to attribute a single, extreme goal to all Palestinians. The overall goal of the Palestinian national movement, which includes various factions, has historically been centered on self-determination, sovereignty, and the establishment of a Palestinian state, often in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, with an end to the Israeli occupation. Here is a breakdown of the complex picture: Palestinian Authority (PA): The PA, which governs parts of the West Bank, officially respects religious freedom for "all other divine religions," including Christianity and Judaism, as stipulated in its Basic Law. Palestinian Christians are an indigenous community in the region and are represented in the PA's political structure. However, the Basic Law does establish Islam as the official religion and makes the principles of Sharia a main source of legislation, and there are reports of social pressure against non-Muslims and antisemitic content in some PA-affiliated media. Hamas and other militant groups (e.g., Palestinian Islamic Jihad): These groups are explicitly committed to the destruction of the State of Israel and the liberation of Palestine based on an Islamist ideology. Regarding Jews: Hamas's charter and statements often target the "Zionist project" and the state of Israel, not necessarily all Jews or Judaism worldwide. However, their rhetoric has included antisemitic language, and their actions have targeted Jewish Israelis. Their initial charter called for followers of Judaism and Christianity to accept Islamic rule, and they have propagated violence against Israeli targets. Regarding Christians: These groups have historically been less focused on Christians, but their Islamist ideology has led them to implement restrictive policies in Gaza, where they have de facto control. Palestinian Christians: They are an integral part of the Palestinian people and community. They actively support the Palestinian national cause for independence and peace. In summary, the goal of wiping out all Christians and Jews is an extreme view that may be held by some individual extremists, but it is not the unified political or national goal of the Palestinian people, who include a diverse population of Muslims and Christians. The central and unified political struggle is against the Israeli occupation and for statehood.
The charter goal of Hamas is the eradication of the nation state of Israel. Hamas is the de facto government of Gaza and despite Israel’s brutal campaign are still able to run the show. But Hamas is not Palestine. They’re a semi-legitimate governing body (Russia, China, Turkey, and obviously Iran) with a well armed and organized militia. The Palestinian Authority who is the de jure ruler of Palestine and de facto the West Bank do not have Hamas’ goal and have similarly seen a pattern of provocation and annexation by Israeli who want to annex the West Bank and have it internationally recognized as territories of Greater Israel.
Hamas will evolve just like everything does, including the Taliban who is now waging war on Pakistan. If the Hamas movement wants to survive (all indications point to it does) it will need to continue to evolve to meet the needs of the Palestinians. And the Palestinians will never be able to retake any of the lost land in their lifetimes using force against their nuclear armed neighbors with F35s. More from Gemini. The Hamas 2017 charter, officially titled the "Document of General Principles and Policies," was released to supplement, but not replace, the original 1988 Hamas Covenant. It contained several notable shifts in language and emphasis: Key Changes and Points: 1967 Borders: The document stated that Hamas would accept the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state along the June 4, 1967 borders (West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem), with the return of refugees, as a "formula of national consensus." However, it explicitly maintained its refusal to recognize Israel and rejected the Oslo Accords. Struggle against Zionism, Not Jews: The 2017 document sought to differentiate its conflict, stating that its struggle is against the "racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist" Zionist project, not against Jews or Judaism. It removed the more explicitly antisemitic language present in the 1988 charter, which had included a call to "fight the Jews." Relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood: The new document omitted the explicit reference to Hamas as a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, likely an attempt to improve relations with countries like Egypt, which views the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Definition of Hamas and Palestine: It defined Hamas as a "Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement" whose goal is to liberate Palestine. It shifted the description of Palestine away from being solely an "Islamic Waqf (endowment)" belonging to the entire Muslim nation (as in the 1988 charter) to being "the land of the Arab Palestinian people" and "an integral territorial unit," while still affirming its Islamic character. Resistance: It affirmed that armed resistance against the occupation is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws and international norms, calling it the "strategic choice." It also included the notion of "managing resistance," allowing for flexibility in escalation and de-escalation tactics. Many analysts viewed the document as a tactical political maneuver aimed at improving Hamas's international image and regional relations, rather than a fundamental shift in its ultimate goal of liberating all of historical Palestine "from the river to the sea."
Israel always was a regional power. They punch way above their weight class because we (the US) are legally obligated to keep them there.
