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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Corrosion

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    I don't know about you, but I'm doing quite alright in this economy ....
     
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  2. astros123

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    Native born unemployment (Americans born in USA) is at the highest its been in 5 years. According to you and the other boomer MAGAT @cml750 claimed mass deportations would lead to massive job growth. Instead were seeing the economy lose jobs for the first time in a decade lol. You MAGATs were wrong about everything

    Its just funny how the dumbest posters on this site keep trying to cosplay as anything other idiots.
     
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  3. Corrosion

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    And you blame deportation for native job losses?

    Not the high interest rates stifling any economic expansion?

    Even Jerome Powell himself calls these rates "restrictive."
     
  4. astros123

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    We had higher interest rates in the biden era and we had more native born job growth and a lower native born unemployment rate. In 2024 when interest rates were higher than they are today we had double the native born job growth.

    You & @cml750 argured illegal brown people were stealing everyone's jobs and how mass deportations would lead to some great job boom. You were wrong about everything.

    You have been brainwashed to hate the wrong people.
     
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  5. Ottomaton

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    I just want to make sure we are all on the same page,

    I'm not trying to talk down to you, but sometimes I wonder if this stuff is totally understood.

    What do you think the primary reason economists would tell you NOT to lower interest rates during periods of high inflation? And what is the Fed's mandate?

    It is described as "restrictive" because they are trying to restrict what? (Hint: It isn't Donald Trump's greatness.)

    Not being "restrictive" would have you spending $20 for a carton of eggs within a year or two. But it'd give Trump some great headlines for a month or two!

    Also, the Fed's rate was about 19% at the end of stagflation in the 70's. That was necessary to prevent Zimbabwe-fication of the dollar. At the end of Reagan's first term it was right below 12%. It was above 5% for most of the 90's. To paraphrase the AI text photo below, the rate has been higher than the current rate greater than 50% of the time that they've been providing a Federal Funds Rate (started in 1954). To repeat, the current Federal Funds Rate is below the historical average.

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    As in the 70's, if they have to choose between cooling the economy/limiting job growth and going full bore and dealing with out of control inflation, economists who aren't chasing public adoration and living news-cycle to news-cycle will always chose to protect the dollar. Like... that is not a liberal or conservative position. That is Economics 101. Stuff I learned in high school economics. I'm sure you could find a few extreme outliers who would suggest otherwise, but they would be just that - extreme outliers/economic kooks, and generally dismissed by mainstream economists, including those of the vaunted Chicago School and their conservative-friendly trickle down economics.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    FIX the immigration system - find a way in which we can get more people into the country (because we need them) and do it legally.

    Every time we tried to go isolationist, we end up in a World War.

    DD
     
  7. glynch

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    Finally !!

    Even that bastion of contented liberalism the NYT had a guest editorial, which I had ad, other than a 30 second scan yesterday morning , which said something similar. I'll have to read it.

    "Little dark rhetorical arts" ? Hardly!. Folks should and do vote for the government that does things for them. I remember Milt , moneybags Romney iirc saying Bernie was just trying to "buy " the election by giving folks "free" college and national healthcare etc.

    The politicians have been giving giving the wealthy things for years so they can get such as tax breaks, subsidies, government contracts etc
     
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    We had higher interest rates under biden in 2023 &2024 and we had substantially lower unemployment and more job gains.
     
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    @Salvy
    @Tomstro
    Breh had fake degrees
    Hahahahahah

     
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    #7750 tinman, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:24 AM
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  11. cml750

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    Hey you unhinged lunatic, quit tagging me in your nonsensical post.
     
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    Michael Finley. Not surprised.
     
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    When you make dumbass predictions and you get proven wrong you will be ridiculed.
     
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    The only reason I have not had you on ignore is because your unhinged ranting is so wrong and stupid it is actually funny. I can live without that humor so welcome to my ignore list.
     
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    Trump's deportation policy continues to enjoy solid support -- even in NY Times polling. The will of the people -- it's a little something called democracy.


    A New York Times poll shows that public support for enforcing migration laws is solid, despite bitter resistance from progressives and the establishment media.

    Fifty-two percent of 1,313 registered voters support President Donald Trump’s policy of “deporting immigrants living in the United States illegally back to their home countries,” according to the September 22-27 poll. The support is unchanged from April 2025.

    The policy is strongly opposed by just 24 percent, down by two percent from April.

    Self-described independents split: 53 percent support versus 25 percent “strongly oppose.”

    Ninety-five percent of Trump’s 2024 voters back his policy.

    The policy has 62 percent support among white Americans, including “strong support” from 45 percent.

    The “strongly oppose” level is highest among women (29 percent), Hispanics (45 percent), and non-white college graduates (36 percent).

    https://www.breitbart.com/immigrati...ps-deportation-policy-holds-majority-support/
     
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  20. Nook

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    Income inequality is the highest it has ever been in US history.

    The top 20% of earners in the USA are getting 70% of the wealth in the USA.

    The bottom 20% of Americans get 3% of the wealth in the USA.

    The USA currently has the highest income inequality in the Western world, and it is even worse once taxes and entitlements are figured in.

    Income for the middle and working class have been stagnant ever since income inequality started creeping up in the 1980's, Income for the top 10% has grown greatly over the last 45 years, and it has exploded for the top 1%.

    So - the same people that have seen their wealthy and income explode - tell those in the working and middle class that the problem is immigrants........ not the people that have taken the money in larger proportion for half a century.

    No longer the billionaires think that the vast majority of Americans are idiots.

    It is literally similar to an obese fat man eating at a table full of food telling a hungry man that the problem is the poor beggar eating crumbs under the table.
     
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