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Shut it down - shut the government down

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 30, 2025 at 9:06 AM.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    I hope the democrats don't move an inch - blow up that BBB - use your power to stop those tax cuts and fund healthcare....

    Stop this government in it's tracks - the BBB is hugely unpopular - do the right thing, stand your ground, you want the votes, you need to restore healthcare and get rid of the tax breaks for billionaires.

    End of story.

    Hard line - now.

    The GOP wouldn't budge, they don't negotiate in good faith, time to punch back...and keep punching.

    DD
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I am optimistic that Republicans will use the shutdown to deliver a death blow to the DC bureaucracy. Burn it to the ground and build it back up in higher productivity regions. Cut to the bone, then cut a little more. The end of the swamp may be near!


    GOOD DAY
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    One further benefit to a shutdown, is ICE would not get paid - they would still have to work, but would not be paid.

    The Dems should simply stand on rolling back the taxes don't budge an inch, the American people are 100% behind it - most of the people in this country hate what is going on - time to take a stand - and force TACO to do what he does best....back down.

    DD
     
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    Dems do not have the balls to shut it down. The old guard of the dems still believe in "bipartisanship"
     
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    What, are you kidding?

    You think President Stephen "Jewish Nazi" Miller wouldn't label ICE goons as "essential workers"?
     
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    Democrats are hurt FAR WORSE by a government shutdown than Republicans. Dems have much more exposure to government jobs and handouts... and Trump is going to cut the bureaucracy so deep that real estate values in Arlington, VA are going to be 50% lower! I might start looking for a pied-a-terre!


    GOOD DAY
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Essential workers have to work, but don't get paid - until there is a resolution - then they get back pay.

    DD
     
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    Or you can just air up the tires on your mobile home Bubba and see if they hold together for the trip.

    ;)

    DD
     
  9. Kemahkeith

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    ICE like all other government employees get back pay once the government passes a new funding bill.

    Just pointing that out.
     
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    Yes, I said that already, but thanks for reinforcing it.

    But if the shutdown goes on for 1 month, 2.....those agents will feel it.

    And they won't get the funding that was approved in the BBB - so, the DEMS should hold the line for the concessions, that is what the GOP does......

    If the party that controls all three branches can't make a deal - that is gross incompetence on their part.

    DD
     
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    Noted.
    But my Marine nephew Lieutenant Sanczek won't get paid either.
    Not just ICE suffers.
     
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    Bummer - the GOP should make a deal then, right?

    Or maybe your nephew can leave the safety of socialism and get a job in the competitive market.....and not rely on tax dollars paying his salary?

    Seems if they cared they would negotiate, the Democrats are doing their job representing their constituents, the GOP is not, they are following a very unpopular Project 2025....

    Would the GOP negotiate with the Dems of the roles were reversed? Nope....the Dems should hold their ground, shut this puppy down for as long as it takes......this would bring what is going on FRONT and CENTER for all to see........it is always the right time to do the RIGHT THING.

    DD
     
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    He is spot on

    Rocket River
     
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    Yeah, he did a podcast with Jon Stewart that was amazing - that guy is 100% spot on.

    Look, people need to FEEL THE PAIN of what is going on - too many have their heads in the sand hoping this will pass.....

    But as per usual, Trump's gross incompetence will cause this shutdown and it will hurt so many across the country, highlighting what is going on with this administration - it will force folks to demand a change - and we need to wake people up before there is no more democracy left.

    If the GOP wants to make a deal they can - it is 100% up to them to negotiate....or not.

    DD
     
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    I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just pointing out that not just the bad guys from ICE get hurt in this situation.

    I can also tell you that my nephew graduated from the top of his class at St. John fisher College and had a full-time job making almost 6 figures after his officers training school in Quantico, before getting his active-duty dates. Full academic ride, no student loans, and this kid will make more money than both of us put together once his 6-year hitch is up.

    He is a 3rd generation Marine officer on his father's side of the family. some just feel it is their duty. So, to categorize him as a socialist depending on others taxes is a touch off base.

    Kid is a proprietary supply accountant for the USMC not a front-line combatant. He is saving our tax dollars if he is doing his job correctly.
     
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    Look, that is fine, I am sure he is a great guy, and feels called to serve - many do, but what is happening is not worth serving for - this is a violation of the constitution of the highest order.

    And, if he doesn't get paid, sounds like he will easily be able to go get a high paying job. I don't label him a socialist, but I think many forget that the military, the police, the fire, our schools the government itself exists on our taxes - and if we don't LIKE how they are being spent, we need to stand up and say so.....

    THIS IS EXACTLY what the democrats are doing........they are trying to save healthcare for the rural folks who voted against them.......it is 100% the right thing to do.

    DD
     
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    No. No we aren't.

    Maybe you 5% on either fringe are behind this crap but I'm certainly not.


    Fighting for healthcare for the illegals .... go figure.

    These people have literally invaded your country and said F*** your procedures, F*** your laws & F*** your culture waving their foreign flags. We're coming in whether you like it or not.

    Tax breaks for billionaires .... LoL. We all got those tax breaks.

    The sky is falling! Burn this mutha down.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    You aren't all that bright, are you?

    They are not fighting for healthcare for illegals that is the DUMBEST **** EVER SAID ON HERE - cultists like you are the reason that so many people vote against their best interests.

    This is healthcare for RURAL hospitals, it is for taking away BILLIONAIRE tax breaks. It is for feeding kids in school that don't have enough to eat at home, it is for VETERANS not having their benefits cut after serving our country.

    While you and your cultist morons are not in favor of this the VAST MAJORITY are......so bummer for you pal, but hey, you elected and support a pedophile so not sure what you say matters at all anyway.

    SHUT IT DOWN - for as long as it takes, and those working for tax dollars and pay, might want to start looking for a job in the private sector......as Trump has threatened to fire you all permanently......

    DD
     
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    You should learn how to communicate instead of calling everyone who disagrees with you an idiot.
     

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