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[AP] Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah college event

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  1. Sanctity

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    I think he's better known for "Honey I Shrunk the Kids". I have a distant ancestor from the turn of last century that looks exactly like him.
     
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  2. Tomstro

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    I disagree. I never saw those movies.
    But this is the best thing he ever did…..
     
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    I get everyone mourns differently, but

     
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    Liberal <<<<
     
  5. Sanctity

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    We aren't talking about the same person.
     
  6. Tomstro

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    Yes we are
     
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    You cultists literally just shot up a church and killed 5 people. I'm pretty sure anything is better than MAGA
     
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    Anyone that is pointing to the violence going on and completely blaming the other political party is mistaken and doing harm.

    The President is full of **** claiming that all of the violence is "radical leftists", and is doing a disservice to the country.

    Having said that - there is also violence on the left, the kid that shot Charlie Kirk was left of center at least on LGBTQ+ issues.

    MAGA has also seen a number of their members do horrible things - including murder in the last week.

    The REAL concern should be the overall increase in political violence across the board - and the only people that benefit from it are political extremists that want this country fractured so that their agenda has a chance of success.
     
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    Not only did he talked the talk, he walked the walk.
     
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    https://www.city-journal.org/article/left-wing-political-violence-terror

    The memeplex is not organized like the older model of left-wing political terrorism, which relied on organized groups (such as the Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army), decentralized cells, ideological formation, and meticulous planning. By contrast, the memeplex is decentralized, mediated through the Internet, and, on the surface, appears unorganized. Left-wing media and political figures peddle narratives through the digital sphere; an individual commits an act of terrorism inspired by those narratives; and the media and political figures pretend that the two are unrelated and that the terrorist was a “lone wolf.”

    But if you dig beneath the surface, it becomes apparent that these dots are often connected and that the memeplex, though decentralized, is designed to radicalize disturbed individuals and generate bloodshed—with plausible deniability for political actors. In other words, the progressives who seed the memeplex are fomenting precisely the “stochastic terrorism” that they previously decried.

    Let’s examine the elements one by one. First: the prestige narratives. For the past decade, the Left’s elite media and political figures have entrenched a series of hyperbolic and highly polemical narratives: that Donald Trump is analogous to Adolf Hitler; that America is about to fall to fascism; that conservatives are organizing a genocide of transgender people; that deportations are laying the groundwork for martial law. These narratives have taken root not only on the fringes of activism and academia, but are reflected in the headlines of the New York Times, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, National Public Radio, MSNBC, and other mainstream outlets.

    Likewise, the Democratic Party has deployed these narratives in political campaigns, protest rallies, and social media messaging, arguing that the Right is on the verge of abolishing democracy and ushering in an authoritarian regime. None of these narratives is true, but each yields an emotional payout. Traditional liberals who donate to Democratic politicians and left-wing NGOs genuinely fear that President Trump desires to be a strongman and will do anything necessary to seize power. Politicians have always relied on heated rhetoric to solicit votes and donations. But the left-wing terror memeplex is different, in that the party’s “progressive” faction deploys these carefully crafted narratives in part to activate the radical elements within the broader coalition, including, most notably, anti-fascist and transgender activists.

    The second element is the radicalized memespace. The prestige media writes the metanarratives, which filter downward through Reddit, Discord, Steam, Twitch, and other web platforms. Because these digital spaces rely on user-generated discussion and lack the editorial guardrails of a traditional publication, individuals can plunge deep into the radicalization process and take the premises of left-wing narratives to their grim conclusions. Democratic politicians shout that Trump is a fascist; users on Reddit and Discord conclude that the proper response to fascism is political assassination.

    These radicalized memespaces are also tailored to psychosexual themes that, while not overtly political, are built on highly ideological concepts, such as intersectional identities. Transgender activists, for example, have anchored their narratives in queer theory, a discipline that is deeply tied to the politics of the Left, particularly in its most radical forms. In the memespace, the personal is always political.

    A spate of recent terror incidents illustrates the connection. The Annunciation Catholic Church shooter, for example, appears to have been radicalized into a transgender identity through radicalized memespaces. The alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk reportedly played a “dating simulator” involving “furries.” Audrey Hale, who killed three children and three adults at The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee, identified as a transgender man and, in her diaries, described a desire to “kill my own race” and to “kill all the white kids,” showing how trans ideology can overlap with far-left racial politics.

    The third element of the terror memeplex is the copycat model. Social scientists have long observed that spectacular acts of violence or terror can inspire others to engage in similar acts of violence and to view them as a competition: more blood, more spectacle, more death. Hale is typical, leaving behind more than a dozen notebooks that documented her fascination with school shootings, including the Columbine massacre, which remains the ur-event for this kind of violence.

    More recently, Luigi Mangione’s alleged assassination of health insurance executive Brian Thompson has sparked a desire for emulation. While most mainline Democratic politicians and prestige media outlets have been careful not to endorse the murder of Thompson, the radicalized memespace has celebrated Mangione, turning him into an icon, calling for copycats, and seeding the ground for future assassinations. Many memeworld leftists have latched on to Mangione’s elite education and handsome appearance to give his nihilistic violence the patina of romanticism and celebrity. And their threats are not idle: the number of American executives who have sought security protection has increased, with many fearing that the C.E.O. assassination archetype, like the school shooting archetype, could replicate itself.

    And finally, the fourth element of the left-wing terror memeplex: the disturbed individual. Since the French Revolution, left-wing movements have relied on psychotic, criminal, violent, and nihilistic people to cross the line into violence. In the past, left-wing organizations would painstakingly recruit, train, manipulate, and drive disturbed individuals to political violence through repeated human-to-human interactions. In the 1960s and 1970s, the federal government was able to infiltrate groups of this nature through wiretapping, confidential informants, and other human intelligence, which, over the years, led to those groups’ destruction.

    Human relationships are complex, and those involving disturbed individuals who want to commit violence are fundamentally unstable and can quickly blow up or burn out. The new left-wing terror memeplex transcends those limitations. The interactions that drive the new terror are not human-to-human in a direct sense, but rather, are mediated by digital technologies and decentralized at each link in the chain.

    The psychological profile of these individuals has changed, too. The left-wing terror memeplex has sought to manipulate sexual ideologies and drive emotionally unstable loners and losers into violence. The alleged Kirk assassin, Annunciation school shooter, and Nashville school shooter all experienced sexual disorders, had troubled relationships with families, and spent an inordinate amount of time in the radicalized memespace, where they built the desire for death. Like in the film The Manchurian Candidate, the memeplex operates to remove “guilt and fear” through brainwashing and political conditioning—but, this time, in a totally decentralized and depersonalized manner.
     
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    Sad. Their deaths matter just as much to their loved ones. Their killers are just as sick and violent.
     
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    DL Explains it better than me

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    Unlike what we expect from card carrying Rs, we expect more from you @DaDakota
     
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