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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

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  1. Rocket River

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    Intriguing

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  2. AleksandarN

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    You and @Space Ghost belong together in this low level trolling attempt. At least be smart about it
     
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  3. basso

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    Grok Prompt:
    can the House Sergeant-at-Arms ask the national guard for assistance in a crisis?

    Yes, the House Sergeant-at-Arms can request assistance from the National Guard in a crisis, but the process involves specific protocols and limitations: -

    **Authority and Coordination**: The House Sergeant-at-Arms, as the chief law enforcement officer for the House of Representatives, is responsible for maintaining security within the House wing of the U.S. Capitol and other House facilities. In a crisis threatening the Capitol, the Sergeant-at-Arms can initiate requests for additional security support, including from the National Guard. However, this typically requires coordination with the Capitol Police Board, which includes the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, and the Architect of the Capitol (non-voting). -

    **Process for Requesting National Guard**: The House Sergeant-at-Arms does not have unilateral authority to deploy the National Guard. The request must generally be approved by the Capitol Police Board or higher authorities, such as the Speaker of the House or the Secretary of Defense, depending on the situation. The National Guard, as a federal and state military force, operates under the command of the state governor (for D.C., the D.C. National Guard is under federal control via the President or their designee, typically the Secretary of the Army). -

    **Historical Precedent**: During the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, Paul Irving at the time, was involved in discussions with Capitol Police and other officials about requesting National Guard assistance. However, delays occurred due to the need for approval from multiple entities, including the Capitol Police Board and the Department of Defense. Ultimately, the D.C. National Guard was deployed after authorization from acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, following coordination with congressional leadership. -

    **Emergency Protocols**: In extreme emergencies, the House Sergeant-at-Arms can take immediate action to secure the Capitol, such as locking down the House chamber or evacuating members, and may request National Guard support through established channels. The D.C. National Guard’s Quick Reaction Force, for instance, can be mobilized rapidly for Capitol security, but this requires approval from the Pentagon or D.C. authorities. -

    **Limitations**: The Sergeant-at-Arms cannot directly order National Guard deployment without higher-level approval, as the Guard operates outside the Capitol Police’s chain of command. Additionally, any request would need to align with legal frameworks, such as the Posse Comitatus Act, which limits military involvement in domestic law enforcement unless authorized by specific statutes or executive action.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    lol. Imagine deferring to Autism Mom over Capital Police Chief Sund
     
  5. Xerobull

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    Yeah, but whatever, right? It doesn't matter now. We're plugging holes in the cracking dam, with no luxury of a lessons learned session revolving around **** 4.5 years ago.

    This is how they distract you.

    The enemy is at the gates.

    Focus.
     
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  7. JuanValdez

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    I think there is another dimension that Sund and Pelosi both are not saying aloud. The Sergeant at Arms said he didn't want the optics of a militarized Capitol. But, if the National Guard had been deployed ahead of time, there was a risk that Trump could use them to physically control the area and assist in a coup. I remember I had considered it a possibility before the riots. It fits Trump's MO too -- create a circumstance in which Congress has to either ask for soldiers under Trump's control or else face mobs under Trump's control. I think they chose wisely to keep National Guard away ahead of time.

    Grok got this wrong. The Capitol Police Board at that time consisted of Paul Irving, House Sergeant-at-Arms, Michael Stenger, Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, Brett Blanton, Architect of the Capitol, and Steven Sund, Chief of Capitol Police. The Speaker and the Senate Majority Leader are not on the board.
     
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  8. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Jan 6th was fake. Shiithead liberals are stupid for a reason. You losers have tried so many things and nothing sticks. Take my advice and quit before you’ll get boot in your hiney.
     
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    I told you woke clowns in here Jan 6th was a set up. You clowns have nothing now to hang your hats on. Lol
     
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    The FBI responded on Saturday to a report that 274 plainclothes agents were at the U.S. Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021, clarifying the role of bureau personnel while still blasting former Director Christopher Wray.

    While the agents were on hand, they were sent in after the riot had begun to try to control the unruly crowd, officials told Fox News Digital. That is not the proper role of FBI agents, and Wray was not forthcoming about what happened when he testified numerous times on Capitol Hill, Director Kash Patel said.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fb...hundreds-agents-jan-6-says-wray-lied-congress

     
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  12. Amiga

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    So, this is what he wants to hang Wray on? This level of desperate political prosecution reveals how badly this admin wants revenge, even if it makes them look like class-A idiots.

    As an aside, the big boss claimed "274 FBI agents went into the crowd just prior to, and during, the January 6th hoax." Patel clarified it was after the riots began, for crowd control. The big boss isn't going to like that.

    Plus, the DOJ inspector general already investigated the FBI undercover claims and concluded there were no undercover FBI agents at the Jan. 6 riots. But blind and loyal supporters were always believers, quick to latch onto pathological political liars to feed them a story, while ignoring the independent inspector general.
     
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