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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Nook

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    I don’t agree with @glynch on Russia and the invasion of Ukraine but he is sincere in his belief.
     
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    good times.

     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    i saw this, and read the various reports. i'm not sure this is new news. Germany, and the rest of NATO, have always had plans in place for how to manage casualties in the event of war w/ Russia. maybe just updated for current realities on its front, and transportation logistics.
     
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    wargaming is a constant. News outlets picking up the story and running with it indicates a new uneasiness about the war
     
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  6. Ubiquitin

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    Trump tells Ukraine: Take back all your land... then go further
    US president makes U-turn as he says Zelensky can take the fight to ‘paper tiger’ Russia and recapture lost territory
     
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  7. basso

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    Orange man good.
     
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    I give it three days and he’ll be singing a different song. He changes his mind as often as he pisses in his diaper.
     
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  9. Andre0087

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    @basso guy stupid
     
  10. The Captain

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    What’s the real angle?
     
  11. Andre0087

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    Besides the general chaos this admin thrives on, who knows?
     
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    It's because the paper tiger got his feelings hurt and putin isn't doing what he said so this is how he pouts.............as soon as the make-up he will be down to kissing putin`s ass again. The POTUS is the biggest snowflake
     
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  13. No Worries

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    Hey Vlad, it tomahawk chop time!


     
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    I saw an article referencing another article quoting someone in the White House admiting it was just a "negotiating tactic" to try and pressure Pootie-poot and that there is no material change in policy towards the war.

    But I didn't dig into it, so take it with a grain of salt.

    I very much doubt Ukraine gets tomahawks. They've been asking for them from the beginning and its always been a hard no.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    War mongers want to start a nuclear war.

    And oil embargo clearly hasn't worked in the last 4 years. Unless you think Trump is much better at it and the Biden administration was completely incompetent.
    Two things can be true at once
     
  16. No Worries

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    Putin is the War Monger. Putin is currently testing NATO airspace in Estonia, Poland, Denmark, France, Sweden. One can only guess what Putin's play here is.

    BTW tomahawks make a very effective agent for oil embargoes, no?
     
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  17. Space Ghost

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    I agree. Putin is a war monger.

    Do you still believe Putin can take on the entirety of NATO, including the US? When it can't even conquer Ukraine with a near non-existent army?
     
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  18. No Worries

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    I don’t know what game Putin is playing. If Putin can get NATO to shoot down some of his fighter jets, he might get Russians to go “all in”?

    BTW no way, no how does TACO man respond to an article 5 violation. Europe is on its own.
     
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    One would have to think that Ukraine knows most of what the US knows, since Ukraine has already been hitting military and economic targets deep within Russia.


    Minimally, this is a big "F*ck You Vlad" from Trump, for not seriously working toward a ceasefire.
     

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