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Trump admin says Tylenol causes autism

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Sep 22, 2025 at 5:42 PM.

  1. Nook

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    I appreciate your optimism - and no, there are no experts that say "You want opinion X, pay me this much more"....... they don't have to, it is like modern corruption in politics and business, you no longer ask for what you want, you let the person you are dealing with figure it out - and then you pay them, and you keep using them...... everyone is aware of it, but no one comments on it.

    This goes for both sides -- this is the situation basically across the board.... the money in the industry of experts is in having lots of clients, some doctors I have worked with or retained made nearly a million dollars a year as an expert, and that is on top of their regular pay.

    Don't underestimate what people will do for money - what I have noticed is that the wealthier people are, especially those that were not born into their wealth - the more that money means to them, the greedier they are and the more likely they are to do whatever it takes to accumulate wealth. That isn't ALWAYS the case, but the generalization is very true.
     
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    I encourage everybody to ignore this guy. I don’t engage with him because everything is in bad faith. The last message was probably more than he deserves

    Value your most important asset which is your time
     
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  3. Os Trigonum

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    the ad hominems against the medical doctor are awesome. Never change, clutchfans posters, never change
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    my experience is that folks who blather on the most about "good faith" argument are the least likely to engage in it
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    I have mostly dealt with economists, and more in advocacy than at trial. I wouldn't ask them to posit something they didn't believe. They don't have to be passionate about it though. Just believe it. Professors especially tend to get offended by micromanagement. But, we would have a framing meeting up front about what we want and what the expert thinks he can defensibly argue. Sometimes, they won't go far enough so they don't get hired. If they think they can argue what we want, that's in the contract and they don't get paid a portion if they don't follow through. I haven't seen as much as you, but I think the assumption of the general public that you can pay an expert to say whatever you tell him to say is too facile.
     
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    She is not an academic radiologist, she works for a community practice of MSK and the breast imaging director for that site. Her associate promotion is due to her recognition from her media appearances.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Nicole+Saphier&sort=date

    Kim Feigin is the actual chief of breast imaging at MSK.
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    fair enough. Is she an M.D. or is that bullshit too?
     
  8. Nook

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    Nah - the argument that a lot of pregnant women are now popping Tylenol in large numbers is ridiculous.

    The doctor has an education - she knows it is ridiculous, so what is her motivation?

    Ahh a regular contributor on Fox News and she is a radiologist.....

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    Nice strawman by her though - we are talking about it.

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  9. Ubiquitin

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    She went to Ross…

    ;)

    She is a board certified radiologist who does breast imaging. I trust her opinion in what she does.
     
  10. ThatBoyNick

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    What does being a MD have to do with making social predictions

    Unless your assuming she has data on "pregnant woman popping tylenol like tic tacs"
     
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  12. Nook

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    I wouldn't ask them to posit something they don't believe either - but it does happen all the time, and these experts quickly figure out that if they want to have a healthy business in consulting work, they will have to be very flexible on how far they will go.
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    fair enough. So what about her tweet? above her paygrade? should she be silenced and/or censored for misinformation? I'm confused what the complaint is here, not you necessarily but other posters who seem to have gotten riled up about her

     
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    Actually, saying someone is political for acting politically is not an ad hominem. That's a direct statement of her words, not of who she is.

    OTOH, you are preaching a well-known fallacy: appeal to authority. You also act like you don't even know what statement is political.
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    I don't actually believe I'm preaching anything. I shared a tweet and then made an observation that the individual is a member of the medical community at a fairly well-respected institution. Didn't realize when I waded into these waters that the sharks were about today.

    I TAKE IT ALL BACK. UNCLE. UNCLE. UNCLE.
     
  16. Amiga

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    Fine. You aren't saying or doing anything. Just passing by like a cloud.
     
  17. Nook

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    It is known that women that are pregnant and have high fevers that are not treated have a higher level of birthing a child with autism.

    Tylenol is used to treat high fevers --- this isn't new information, it has nothing to do with disliking Trump and everything to do with what is known in the field.
     
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    You're too good at what you do, don't blame us.




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    The last little pot shake at the end is key too
     
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    Cornell professors suck
     

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