[State Sponsored Cancel Culture] Disney cancels the Jimmy Kimmel Show after government pressure

CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul · Sep 22, 2025 at 2:53 PM

Ubiquitin said: ↑

Cut out the personal attacks.
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Personal attacks are the left’s specialty. I’m just fighting fire with fire. You can never engage in a civil conversation with lefties, they lie to your face while gaslighting you at the same time.

Kemahkeith · Sep 22, 2025 at 2:53 PM

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Split is freaking gorgeous. Amazing raves and parties especially in the summer. I was there this past summer. Hope you had fun. Hot women as well
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I realized two things that will forever be etched in my mind, well 4.
1) You had better be in shape to walk around in Dubrovnik.
2) I have never been able to see so deep down into the water, the cleanest water I have ever seen
3) It's amazing how almost everyone there can speak at least passable English.
4) I got afraid I was going to be injured talking to folks that live there. when they talk their arms flail everywhere, but in a good way.

I'm not a big rave guy anymore, but I did drink more than my share of Rakija.
Zivjeli.

astros123 · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:03 PM

Kemahkeith said: ↑

I realized two things that will forever be etched in my mind, well 4.
1) You had better be in shape to walk around in Dubrovnik.
2) I have never been able to see so deep down into the water, the cleanest water I have ever seen
3) It's amazing how almost everyone there can speak at least passable English.
4) I got afraid I was going to be injured talking to folks that live there. when they talk their arms flail everywhere, but in a good way.

I'm not a big rave guy anymore, but I did drink more than my share of Rakija.
Zivjeli.
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Europe is the best place to spend your money/time and America is where you go to earn it. Happy you had fun. If you ever decide to visit Denmark let me know id love to buy you drinks and talk Houston sports. I'm not an ******* in person I just troll here lol

ROCKSS · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:10 PM

Kemahkeith said: ↑

I realized two things that will forever be etched in my mind, well 4.
1) You had better be in shape to walk around in Dubrovnik.
2) I have never been able to see so deep down into the water, the cleanest water I have ever seen
3) It's amazing how almost everyone there can speak at least passable English.
4) I got afraid I was going to be injured talking to folks that live there. when they talk their arms flail everywhere, but in a good way.

I'm not a big rave guy anymore, but I did drink more than my share of Rakija.
Zivjeli.
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I watched one of those relocation shows for a girl who moved from LA to Croatia and dam it's pretty there and the beaches are awesome..................and cheap as hell to get an apt. Glad you had fun

Kemahkeith · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:13 PM

astros123 said: ↑

Europe is the best place to spend your money/time and America is where you go to earn it. Happy you had fun. If you ever decide to visit Denmark let me know id love to buy you drinks and talk Houston sports. I'm not an ******* in person I just troll here lol
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We al have our niche.
Would love to see an FC Copenhagen match one of these days, but wife is set on Iceland next. Easy flight from here in NY.

DaDakota · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:13 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-abc-return-tuesday-rcna232335

Kimmel back tomorrow night.

DD

Jugdish · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:25 PM

Kemahkeith said: ↑

It's amazing how almost everyone there can speak at least passable English.
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You were in the tourist epicenter of the Balkans...they'd be losing money if they didn't speak English.

Os Trigonum · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:32 PM

Os Trigonum said: ↑

Again, an employment issue between ABC and Kimmel is one thing, a genuine threat to free speech is quite another.
To borrow a university example (again): we have plenty of cases where university employees are reprimanded/suspended/fired for "speech" that occurs outside the normal bounds of their job. Where a professor could claim "academic freedom" on a topic of his/her expertise inside the bounds of his/her own classroom, a sufficient amount of leeway can be granted to a professor to use his/her own judgment about how to conduct their own classroom.

On the other hand, if a professor goes OUTSIDE the classroom, and participates for example in an off-campus rally (or an on-campus rally) or on social media, and that professor chooses to make speeches (let's say expressing pro-Palestinian support of Hamas), then that opens up that professor to a NEW level of scrutiny about expressive content that may or may not be protected under the guise of academic freedom--particularly if that political speech is extremely far removed from their academic field, e.g., a chemistry professor chanting anti-Jewish slurs at a campus rally.

None of these things happen in real life by the way.

While an employee of the university may have a "free speech" right to spout anti-semitic slogans at a private/off-campus/non-university location, that does not mean the employer cannot take an interest in that professor's extra-curricular activities. Sometimes the nature of the social offense is so great, an employer can essentially come to a conclusion of: "This employee (professor or not) lacks the judgment we require of a professional in that job title." I.E., we can no longer trust this employee to exercise clear judgment in the future. In which case an employer can begin the hearing process for discipline, with penalties that can vary from suspension of teaching duties, suspension without pay for a specified time period, or termination.

To get back to Kimmel: ABC as an employer can both respect Kimmel's right to voice whatever he would like to voice, on-air or off-the-air, while AT THE SAME TIME come to a conclusion that: "We can no longer trust your judgment to act in the professional capacity we require from our employees in that position." Two separate issues--a "freedom of speech" issue if you want to call it that, and an employee-employer relationship issue. Very important to keep those separate, or at the least to be aware of how they differ. (Universities add that third issue of academic freedom, which is different than free speech albeit related in many ways.)

NONE of this makes me a Trumper or someone who engages in sane washing Trump, whatever that is. I think Democrats/lefties have truly lost the ability to think through issues because of their Trump-colored glasses. Evidence for my belief right here:

Why do you try to normalize things that are not normal? You do everything in your power not to believe it.

The normal world deals with employee/employer relations every day all day long. There is nothing out-of-the-ordinary about any of what I have argued in this thread or elsewhere. I just think left-leaning posters here have lost their ability (if they ever had it) of reading other posters' arguments with a spirit of charity. One mark of good faith argument is the ability to rephrase one's opponents' views in a way that those opponents would agree fairly represents their position. I do not believe I have EVER had someone restate my arguments in a way that I felt accurately captured the gist of what I am saying. And I do not believe I am unclear as a writer--forty years of experience in academia, and I have never had anyone tell me that I am a clown or a dipshit or am sane washinig anything. On occasions when I am unclear, I try to restate my positions (multiple times if needed), especially when I sense the person on the other side is sincerely trying to understand my point. There are a few posters here who fit that description--Nick, durvasa, yourself, SweetLou, maybe a couple of others--the rest just go straight to ad hominems and insults. I don't pay much attention to them except to turn around and mock them when it suits me.

Anyway. I believe ABC can let Kimmel go if they decide Kimmel is now a liability and no longer an asset. FOR WHATEVER REASON. That is their right as an employer.

If ABC felt strongly about "freedom of the press" and wanted to make Jimmy Kimmel their hill to die on, well, they should just go ahead and do that. I don't see that happening, but who knows, maybe this thing will turn around.

And I still think the "consequences" line from Brendan Carr was artfully ambiguous enough that it left room for interpretation. Carr isn't dumb. Consequences didn't automatically entail "affiliates will lose their licenses." Consequences could very well be fines. ABC didn't elect to wait around and see what the consequences would be (if any). Carr could have just been blowing smoke for all we know.

more than you bargained for. I don't think making arguments about free speech, Kimmel, Carr, or about Trump makes me a Trumper. You can respect the office of the President and detest the individual who sits in that office. There has been NOTHING in the entire Kimmel episode that makes me fear for democracy, anymore than firing a professor for anti-semitic remarks makes me fear for higher education. Folks need to get clear on the fact that none of these events are single-concern issues. There's almost always a multitude of factors and influences that are at work and in play.

on edit:

7 of the Biggest FCC Fines of All Time
https://stories.avvo.com/money/business/7-of-the-biggest-fcc-fines-of-all-time.html
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related:

Transgender Kent State Prof Loses First Amendment + Discrimination Claim Related to "Weeks-Long, Profanity-Laden Twitter Tirade Insulting Colleagues and the University"

https://reason.com/volokh/2025/09/1...rade-insulting-colleagues-and-the-university/

JuanValdez · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:34 PM

adoo said: ↑

We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy
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Does that mean he can go on air so long as he follows some "guidelines"?

Andre0087 · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:36 PM

DaDakota said: ↑

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-abc-return-tuesday-rcna232335

Kimmel back tomorrow night.

DD
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jordnnnn · Sep 22, 2025 at 3:37 PM

No Worries · Sep 22, 2025 at 4:20 PM

I suspect that ABC waited into after Kirk's memorial service was over, before bringing back Kimmel.

Reeko · Sep 22, 2025 at 4:29 PM

people were cancelling their Disney+ subscription in droves, so they decided to change course

all this after they suspended Jimmy Kimmel for giving the most milquetoast statement ever and not being on his hands and knees for some racist propagandist and grifter

Disney is dumb as sh*t

Space Ghost · Sep 22, 2025 at 4:39 PM

So are we cheering for disney again for standing up to trump? Me so confused

DaDakota · Sep 22, 2025 at 4:45 PM

Reeko said: ↑

people were cancelling their Disney+ subscription in droves, so they decided to change course

all this after they suspended Jimmy Kimmel for giving the most milquetoast statement ever and not being on his hands and knees for some racist propagandist and grifter

Disney is dumb as sh*t
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They could have made so much more money by STANDING UP for FREE SPEECH, people that hadn't subscribed would have flocked, now.....not so much.

You never BACKDOWN from a bully like Trump...never.

DD

FranchiseBlade · Sep 22, 2025 at 5:13 PM

Space Ghost said: ↑

So are we cheering for disney again for standing up to trump? Me so confused
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We are cheering them for doing the right thing. We were criticizing them for not doing the right thing

edwardc · Sep 22, 2025 at 5:23 PM

Amiga · Sep 22, 2025 at 5:40 PM

FranchiseBlade said: ↑

We are cheering them for doing the right thing. We were criticizing them for not doing the right thing
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what a hard concept

FranchiseBlade · Sep 22, 2025 at 6:49 PM

True or false the head of the FCC called for Kimmel's suspension and he was suspended?

True or False the head of the FCC said that the network should remove Kimmel from the air or face consequences?

People can pretend that's okay. But anyone who really thinks about it knows that it isn't.

astros123 · Sep 22, 2025 at 7:12 PM

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