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$100,000 Fee for H-1B Visas in Latest Crackdown

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by strosb4bros, Sep 19, 2025.

  1. Rocket River

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    Banned but still enforced today
    Still having affects TODAY

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  2. tinman

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    Tell him don’t go to Korea town to burn it down cause the Koreans got rooftop snipers
     
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    Nah, at this point, reputation is earned.

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    Whichever candidate that comes out against h1b visas will win in a landslide
     
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    Does he know the H1B has nothing to do with Black people?
    It affects Indians who are on visas , the people who are going to net a positive affect are smart Americans who are in the IT field . He can take a wild guess on who that is breh
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  6. JuanValdez

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    I don't care much about how we change H1B policy one way or the other. I do care that Trump once again oversteps his authority trying to legislate by fiat. If it is a good idea, have an ally in the Senate write a bill and get it voted on.
     
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    I really don't mean this as a whataboutism, but legislation by fiat was absolutely Joe Biden's forté. I think you're going to continue to see much more of this well beyond Trump because Congress is so ineffective and dysfunctional.
     
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    I'm not sure how to read it as anything other than a whataboutism. But yes, many previous presidents have tried to do things by EO that were later adjudicated to be beyond their authority. The flavor of Trump's overstepping is different. The old dance was to say an EO is a reasonable interpretation of regulatory discretion within a statute and leaves it to the courts to decide whether to accept that argument (and we had Chevron deference back then too which allowed agencies to make reasonable interpretations of statute). Trump had a more unitary executive approach where he claims the presidency itself has powers we haven't traditionally understood it to have. He makes up emergencies to justify emergency powers, for example. And he does it 8 times a day. So, yeah, there is unfortunately precedent where previous presidents have helped set Trump up, but Trump is different in both nature and intensity.
     
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    (It is a whataboutism but I'm going to answer it anyway)

    Congress has been ineffective and dysfunctional for decades. That’s no excuse to legislate by fiat, and certainly not to trample the laws and the Constitution at will.

    Let’s judge “legislating by fiat” in two ways.

    First, by the type of EOs. Some EOs are valid, staying within the law or clarifying enforcement. Others cross the line, ignoring legislation, breaking laws, and even clashing with the Constitution.

    Second, by the volume of EOs. When a president issues far more than predecessors, it shows reliance on raw unilateral power instead of working with Congress.

    By both measures, Biden doesn’t fit the accusation. He didn’t govern that way, and neither did most modern presidents. This POTUS, however, doesn’t care. He’s issuing EOs that trample laws and the Constitution. And the numbers speak for themselves: DJT has already issued 202 EOs this year, while Biden issued 162 over his entire 4 years.
     
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    that may very well be true. But Biden lost an awful lot of calls in the courts, whereas Trump has either matched Biden's success in that regard or perhaps even done a little bit better (I haven't counted the win-loss column for either). But you may very well be right that Trump's efforts differ not just in degree but in kind.
     
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    Another EO that could hurt rural communities.

    Doctors May Be Exempt From $100,000 H-1B Fee, White House Says - Bloomberg

    For hospitals, the H-1B visa program is crucial to recruiting doctors in remote parts of the country where there are in some cases severe shortages of health care workers.

    Health care employers often sponsor medical residents and other physicians through the H-1B program. American Medical Association President Bobby Mukkamala, a Michigan head and neck surgeon, called international medical graduates “a critical part of our physician workforce,” before the Trump administration said doctors and those in training may qualify for exemptions.

    More than 76 million Americans live in places where the government has designated a shortage of primary care doctors, according to federal data compiled by health research group KFF.
     
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    Um... read the title of the article you posted. I called it over the weekend.

     
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    It's a great solution. $100-150,000 is what tech companies with massive profit margins save per salary year when going with h1b over local. The Durbin and Grassley bill is rife with loopholes that the biggest tech companies will exploit --


    More bureacratic "oversight" the expensive law team at microsoft and Amazon can easily run circles around. This is what dems do - never ending oversight, never ending regulations, but an inability to cut to the core of the problem.

    The $100k h1b bill is directly targeted at those tech companies. Pay to play, and a salary floor to disincentivize ignoring American workers. Create a STEM pipeline to adequately train Americans from the ground up and have them prepared for high skill jobs. Not everyone has the ability, but everyone should have the chance to prove themselves.
     
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    Don't the republicans want to cut money to education
    and spend more on religious Political indoctrination programs than STEM?

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    He's talking about this administration caring about STEM while RFK and Trump are out here claiming Tylenol causes autism.
     
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    Your post misuses three words: Dem, oversight, and regulation.

    First, the bill you are criticizing is sponsored by Chuck Grassley, a Republican, with support from some Democrats. Saying “this is what Dems do” is just a political attack and not accurate.

    Second, the $100k H1B EO is regulation. It sets rules for visas and tells agencies like the Dept of Labor and USCIS how to apply them, including granting exemptions. Regulation is simply making rules that must be followed.

    Third, oversight is different. Oversight means checking how agencies carry out programs to make sure they follow the rules. It does not involve Microsoft, Amazon, or other companies. You are mixing up oversight and regulation.

    Until you learn to use these words accurately, I don’t see your post as anything more than a political statement. It is full of terms you are misusing and does not make any valid points beyond politics.
     

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