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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Sep 17, 2025.

  1. Texanstradamus

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    It’s like the Texans don’t try and get better after winning the division twice they just implode this is the 3rd time this has happened. They can’t stay good for a prolonged time. That is just bad organizational structure.
     
  2. STR8Thugg

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    Man, this offense would do some things if McDaniel was the OC, methinks.
     
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  3. Qan

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    Would rather have Caley gone right now and hire McDaniel tomorrow if they could.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Will we get Nerd McDaniel or Florida McDaniel?

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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    How long are you expecting them to hold the block?

    Just a reminder, he had this given to him underneath for a first down, but he ignored it to hold the ball longer and throw a pick Screenshot_20250921_171717_X.jpg
     
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  6. mvpcrossxover

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    Dominate teams?

    This texans roster on offense dominating teams? Lol you funny.
     
  7. evilhomer

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    Don't worry everybody, we got SWARM, we gonna be ok...SWARM SWARM SWARM...
     
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  8. Mr.Scarface

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    I don't think he could have dropped it Marks. The other DE was right there. The play had to be almost immediately to Marks.
     
  9. astros123

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    Whenever we've needed the defense to step it up they've choked. Allowed the rams to convert on that last drive to seal the game. Allowed the bucs to score a TD at the end of the 4th. We gave a TD to the Jax in crunch time when we've needed to stop them.

    Depressing
     
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  10. Bobbythegreat

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    At that point, yeah, he'd have to throw immediately...but he had been ignoring that easy first down check down for a while at the point it was clipped.

    Stroud made the choice to ignore the internal click that said the ball needed to be out and it bit him.

    You can't blame the O line when you refuse to get the ball out on time.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    One of my problems with this team under Demeco is that it seems the primary goal for most of the game is to keep it close and give yourself a shot at the end. Even when winning, it's never dominate your opponent and put the game away. That's why we've had all these one score games and why we're more likely to get blown out than blow someone else out. It's why we had a negative point differential going into the last game of the season last year.

    The team has never been that good under Demeco. We just happened to be slightly above average enough to eek out a lot of one score games. Now that we're a little worse, we're not winning the coin flips we won the last 2 years. And I blame part of that on the mentality of "just keep it close". Fans of the team knew that that despite their record, they were an incredibly frustrating team to watch. But leadership thought they were better than they were and that the problems we saw last year were OK.

    Well, we're seeing the exact same crap that made the team frustrating to watch last year, only we're not getting the random breaks. Same crappy offense. Same porous o-line. Same lame plays where receivers don't get open. Same Stroud being indecisive even when he has time. Same defense being the bright spot but wilting in big moments. Same lack of discipline. Same mental mistakes. Same barrage of yellow flags. This is the real Texans without luck on their side and nobody should really be surprised.
     
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  12. percicles

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    Hell yeah! Cocaine Nerd Boy!

    In all seriousness he would make the most sense. He’s worked here before, he’s worked with Demeco, he has playcalling and coaching experience but more importantly he fixed Tua….until Tua developed the brain scrambles.

    People forget that Tua was a bust before Mike and had his spirit and confidence broken by the Brian Flores (another Patriot branch) era. Mike gave him back his confidence and built the entire Fins offense around Tuas strengths and hid his deficiency well until the brain scramblies.
     
  13. STR8Thugg

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    Yes
     
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    im taking that in a heartbeat I really am.
     
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  15. mvpcrossxover

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    Dump it to Marks, gets the 1st then spike the ball.

    I like that they were ambitious but they acted like it was only 10 secs left on the clock.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    To be clear, right here is the moment he needed to be hitting the RB that had no one within 12 yards of him. This is an easy first down, but instead CJ opted to hold on to the ball, oblivious of the pressure coming. Throwing the ball 5-7 yards happens MUCH more quickly than the process of throwing a ball 40 yards which is what he attempted.

    He does this **** a lot, ignores the smart play and holds out hope for the big play...which leads to the O line failing. That's the difference between a good QB and a bad QB.

    Also, even if he gets the big play...which is throwing to a guy in tight coverage and unlikely even if the ball isn't tipped, that leads to a score with plenty of time left on the clock for the Jags to break the tie before OT. Every part of this is the wrong decision.

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  17. Mr.Scarface

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    The play design is wrong. Marks should have been on the other side.....chipping before going out in the flat. Why didn't he give the LT help, he had trouble all game?
     
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  18. Buck Turgidson

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    When your OT is blocking the rusher in the back as he runs around him on a beeline to the QB, the play will not be productive
     
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  19. Bobbythegreat

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    CJ Stroud called out the protections...so it's something he could have done...but he didn't even need to, he just needed to read that the DB's cleared out completely leaving the middle of the field abandoned and get the ball to Marks accurately and on time for the EASY first down, and maybe more if he makes the DB miss. It wouldn't have taken much to get the ball down to the 15-20 if CJ reads the defense properly, then you have time for at least a few more attempts into the end zone from the red zone.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    You say that, but if CJ properly reads the defense and gets the ball to Marks accurately and on time, it is a VERY productive play.

    Just because the stupid decision CJ made couldn't be productive doesn't mean that the right read wouldn't have been. A competent QB knows the middle is wide open and has the ball out WAY before anyone gets close to him, even with the OT not doing a good job of giving him more than 4 seconds to work with. The average time to throw in the NFL is under 3 seconds (2.76 seconds).

    CJ Stroud's time to throw last season, was 3.1 seconds on average, the 9th slowest in the NFL.
     
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