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[State Sponsored Cancel Culture] Disney cancels the Jimmy Kimmel Show after government pressure

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Sep 17, 2025 at 5:58 PM.

  1. Sajan

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    These kind of statements are what makes you a clown.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    what, do you wake up in the morning and just decide, "Hey it's a great day to call some stranger on the internet names!!"

    I guess whatever floats your boat :rolleyes:
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    related

     
  4. Amiga

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    CCP is our primary economic and political competitor.

    You assume Americans make sensible economic choices for themselves. A good segment of Americans made a bet (gamble) because they were desperate for change.

    Today's Republicans as a whole didn't make a choice based on economic reasons. There seems to be no amount of flames that matters to that group.
     
  5. durvasa

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    I think you keep missing the point here. The firing isn’t the offense at issue. The issue is the comments the FCC chair made — threatening the station with regulatory consequences unless they publicly disiciplined Kimmel. As you yourself appear to now concede, this was an overstep of their authority. The implications for chilling free speech should be obvious.

    If we allow the government to censor broadcasters by bastardizing what is meant by “public interest” to simply mean “what is politically acceptable to the current administration”, that is a substantial weakening of our 1st amendment protections against coercive government power.

    It really seems you narrow or widen your focus on what matters when it comes to free speech depending on whether Democrats are for it or against it. Maybe it’s because you see many of them as hypocrites on free speech, and I wouldn’t altogether disagree with that! But we should just look at what’s happening plainly for what it is.

    “These companies allowed themselves to be coerced, that’s not the government’s fault!” is not an excuse for the coercice threats in the first place. Even if we think ABC could have resisted without significant cost (speculative), who says another company who in the future receives the same pressure would be able to?
     
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  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    It’s not your stances necessarily, it’s that you act dumbfounded and stupid in the face of blatant hypocrisy.
     
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  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    And these are the same ****ers that cry cancel culture over the slightest offense


    They are bad faith actors and people should stop engaging with them.
     
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  8. Os Trigonum

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    no, I'm really not missing the point here.

    If we are talking the specific case of Jimmy Kimmel, then I think the misdirection to the "free speech" issue is simply that--a misdirection.
     
  9. durvasa

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    You are being willfully blind to the threat against free speech protections and just calling it misdirection. “Let’s not talk about that, let’s instead focus on this” is not an argument. I’m sorry.
     
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    now this is a second specific issue. One that can be debated as well. And I believe that Carr's remarks about public interest fell within the boundaries of his job description and authority as FCC chair.

    NOW . . . with that said. I find it remarkable that basically NOBODY here has picked up on the truly threatening censorship/free speech comments that have been made among all the noise. I just haven't seen it. And those remarks are a THIRD specific issue.

    Those remarks would be the remarks that Trump himself made, after Carr's remarks and after the suspension of the Kimmel show, that broadcast affiliates should lose their licenses if they criticize him. Reported e.g., at

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...cc-licenses-treating-him-unfairly-1236375564/

    THAT is the topic people should be discussing. THAT is the topic that is significant. THAT is Trump threatening censorship.

    While I suspect Trump may be (in his usual clumsy way) making a case about systemic, partisan one-sidedness in reporting about his administration (in which case I believe he has a legitimate argument to make, even though he is not making it here), his offhand comments about affiliates losing their licenses for criticizing him is the true threat here.
     
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  11. durvasa

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    The two instances are closely linked. What makes the FCC’s threats especially alarming is the extremely politicized and corrupt context of the Trump administration in which these ostensibly independent regulatory agencies are wielded as a political tool.
     
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    Are you implying he is a professor at the school of the clinically obtuse ?
     
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  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    We could all appraise his house at 10x the value arbitrarily and then collectively raise his property taxes and then claim we never directly forced him out of his house when he can’t make his payments. By his logic (again when it comes to cancel culture on his issues he’s very sensitive) we would be vindicated

    He sits here and wastes everybody’s time in bad faith people need to stop engaging
     
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    Jimmy Kimmel hosted just one right-leaning guest in past four years — and it came with a condition

    https://nypost.com/2025/09/20/us-ne...past-four-years-and-it-came-with-a-condition/

    excerpt:

    Embattled late night funnyman Jimmy Kimmel hosted just one Republican guest on his ratings-challenged talk show over the past four years — while making sure nearly all his jokes landed at the expense of conservatives, a new study found.

    Before being “indefinitely” yanked off his “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” this week after making a false claim that conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin was a MAGA supporter, Kimmel, 57, welcomed 13 left-leaning guests this year — and no Republicans, media watchdog NewsBusters found.

    The portion of Kimmel’s jokes and gags targeting conservatives surged — from 88% in 2023 to 97% this year, the group found.

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    more at the link
     
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    Just ignore him, he doesn't deserve a response, he is not a serious person.

    DD
     
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  16. Os Trigonum

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    LOL

    from the guy who brought you the professional sniper on the grassy knoll conspiracy
     
  17. durvasa

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    Disagree. Engaging on the substance rather than ad hominem (which, I’ll admit, I strive to do but am not always great at) can crystallize legitimate, thought-provoking counter arguments.
     
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    it's so beautiful .gif
     
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    Correct.

    I don't believe free speech is without consequences. I don't go out on twitter with my real name and blast ****. hell i don't do it here and do it under a username because I don't need repercussion from my employers.

    Kimmel getting fired over his "jokes", I don't care. That's their choice as a network and an employer.

    What I do care about is the fact the govt was involved in all this. Don't do it under the guise of "public interest". It's "i got butthurt by the jokes because they made fun of me".
     
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