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Trump says he's designating antifa as "a major terrorist organization"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:16 PM.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    You guys thought it was going to be 1932 Germany when it was actually 1936 Spain all along.

    As Antifa is not an actual organization (unlike say the Proud Boys, Black Panthers, Black Israelites, KKK, 3%ers, Bloods, Crips, BGF, MS13, etc) but an ideology, everyone who disagrees with the administration is at risk of being labeled a member of Antifa. And the administration has shown it shoots first and asks questions later. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna231505

    https://www.axios.com/2025/09/18/trump-antifa-terrorist-designation

    President Trump is designating the anti-fascist antifa movement as a terrorist organization, according to a post he made during his state visit to the United Kingdom early Thursday U.K. time.

    What he's saying: "I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION," Trump wrote on Truth Social.



    • "I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices," he added.
    Context: Antifa is a decentralized, leaderless movement that's opposed to fascism and is loosely defined as far-left.

    • It can use direct-action protest tactics and an ADL report notes that while "some extreme actors who claim to be affiliated with antifa do engage in violence or vandalism at rallies and events, this is not the norm."
    Driving the news: Trump told reporters earlier this week that he would consider designating antifa a "domestic terror organization."

    • He added: "I would do that 100% and others also, by the way, but Antifa is terrible."
    The intrigue: Per the ADL, "Because there is no unifying body for antifa, it is impossible to know how many adherents are currently active."


    • Representatives for the White House and Department of Justice did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment on Trump's plans for enforcing action against antifa.
    Flashback: During the first Trump administration, then-Attorney General Bill Barr said the DOJ would use its regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces to identify the "criminal organizers and instigators" of violence during George Floyd protests, including antifa.
     
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  2. dobro1229

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    Isn't this sort of an admission that he's a fascist??

    I mean the "organization" is literally called ANTI-FASCIST. So if you are going after anyone anti-fascists because they are critical and oppose your regime than by definition you are admitting that you are in fact.... a fascist.
     
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  3. durvasa

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    The manner in which they’re going after people who call them fascist is very reminiscent of … fascism?
     
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  4. Nook

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    ANTIFA aren’t Democrats. They really aren’t anything, I guess anarchists maybe? There is no leader or meetings… they are a convenient boogie man though.

    I’m sure the 1000 people in the country that identify as ANTIFA are worried… it’s not like they have jobs to risk losing.

    This administration is made up of p*****s. Not surprised I guess.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    Can we designate Trump as a Facist Terrorist?

    DD
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I expect the NAACP will be soon . . ..

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  7. Exiled

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    This shows that Stephen Miller is the actual president/ handler, he should've waited for Trump to come back
     
  8. dobro1229

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    That would be true if we didn’t know that Trump and his regime were just going to call everyone that isn’t MAGA Antifa. Kind of like how we all are radical socialist communists already. Does it stop Trump from calling me and you radical
    Communists because we don’t belong to the communists association of North America??

    I hope it’s all just a show but I will be shocked if Trumps doj and fbi do not stretch the definition of this label that allows them to use war like powers to deny due process and start throwing democrats in prison or worse just because a democrat dares say something critical of Trump.
     
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  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So does this mean he can kill anyone with military weapons now and claim it was Antifa he was killing? And conservatives will cheer that on?
     
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  11. Amiga

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    AFAIK, there's no law allowing the US to designate domestic "groups", "organizations" as terrorists.

    Only the SoS can designate foreign terrorist organizations.

    So wait - is the US going after anti-fascists in OTHER countries? That would literally mean supporting fascist regimes like Russia, Iran, North Korea... (@Os Trigonum is this the correct usage of literally?)

    Oh wait, I'm talking about being lawful. Never mind.
     
  12. Os Trigonum

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    unconfuse me then
     
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    Just for the record there is no such thing as a "MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" designation, just like the President can't abolish voting by mail.

    It's a power that does not exist and will have to be reverse engineered (which, in fairness, has happened before, because our republic is broken)
     
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  16. Amiga

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    Domestic terrorism is defined by the acts someone commits, not by labeling a group.

    A lawful US resident can be prosecuted for terrorist acts, but Congress does not allow labeling domestic groups as terrorist organizations because that would infringe on constitutional rights like free speech. Labeling foreign groups, by contrast, lets the gov prosecute supporters, restrict entry, and impose sanctions.
     
  17. Os Trigonum

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    I think you're arguing angels on the top of a pin . . . . Look, Trump could designate September "National Chocolate Chip Cookie Month" and have absolutely NO authority to do so. If folks with TDS want to get charged up about that, I can't stop them.

    But the fact of the matter is that the United States government has investigated and prosecuted groups as "organized domestic terror" groups for decades. Just one example is ecoterrorism and its close cousin animal rights terrorism: both the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front have been treated as domestic terror groups by the FBI for a long, long time. Trump declaring that he wants to treat Antifa in a similar way is unshocking and frankly, unexciting. But if you want to get worked up about it, go for it.

    The FBI and domestic terror groups:

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/animal-rights-extremism-and-ecoterrorism

    excerpt (Congressional testimony):

    As you know, the FBI divides the terrorist threat facing the United States into two broad categories, international and domestic. International terrorism involves violent acts that occur beyond our national boundaries and are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or similar acts of violence committed by individuals or groups under some form of foreign direction occurring within the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Domestic terrorism involves acts of violence that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, committed by individuals or groups without any foreign direction, and appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

    During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the domestic terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the United States. During the past several years, however, special interest extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), and related extremists, has emerged as a serious domestic terrorist threat. Special interest terrorism differs from traditional right-wing and left-wing terrorism in that extremist special interest groups seek to resolve specific issues, rather than effect widespread political change. Such extremists conduct acts of politically motivated violence to force segments of society, including the general public, to change attitudes about issues considered important to the extremists’ causes. Generally, extremist groups engage in much activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement only becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action. The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF and related groups have committed more than 1,100 criminal acts in the United States since 1976, resulting in damages conservatively estimated at approximately $110 million.
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  18. DaDakota

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    Our country is on fire, and stupid people don't realize that eventually the fire will burn them too.

    Nice job assholes putting in a deranged vengeful idiot.

    DD
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    He's doing what he does best...

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    Coincidentally, it's also the only thing he does.
     
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  20. DaDakota

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    The reason smart people don't like him, is because WE are smart enough to see through the bullshit.

    DD
     

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