Is CJ worth a max contract? Are we making a mistake ?

Sign him now for half max while he is at his lowest. Like the mid level exception. Oops, wrong sport.

 

Trevor got 50+ a year so he’s definitely getting somewhere in that range .

 

Nope, he has flashed and I am sure Hannah loves him. His contract will be top 8. Hopefully he finds that rookie swagger where he could make every throw.

 

Sign him now on a cheap deal while his value is low.

 

Inept organization from ownership down.

Wasted the years where they didn’t have to pay Stroud the max.

Blown draft picks on the offensive line… then gutted their offensive line and didn’t fill the holes…. That’s how I knew they weren’t serious about winning this season.

Named an OC with zero experience calling plays… then fire him after he is predictably inept and name someone else as OC whom has never been been an OC before.

Of course the young QB struggles without a line and another rookie OC.

However Reliant will still be full - the McNairs will still get their new stadium and the product will continue to be mediocre.

 

I have faith in CJ BUT if the team is not going to surround him with the right talent, they won't get the proper ROI

CJ will get paid, hell he will probably set the market with his deal, it's just part of the deal. The problem is we will have to pay Will top dollar, then Lassiter and so on, so we will have so much money wrapped up in just a few players (see the Chiefs) and round and round we go. This was THE YEAR to make the bold moves and IMO we missed the mark. The Eagles have a blueprint that most teams should emulate, but for whatever reason the Texans didn't learn from them

We will be mediocre with glimpses of what could have been at times, but well never get over the hump. To be fair, I am still pissed from Monday night and while were probably built to beat teams like the Jags and Titans, we are not built to beat teams like the Ravens and Bills and that was JOB 1 for this organization as soon as were killed by the Ravens last year

 

He's either going to have to radically improve or i don't want the Texans to have anything to do with that kind of bad contract.

The only time Stroud has seen success is when he was a rookie and he was treated as such. The more responsibility they have given him, the more complex the playbook has been, the worse he's looked.

This season the team gave him even more responsibilities and he's totally screwed them up AND it has caused the rest of his game to nose dive.

He's clearly thinking too much, too slowly out there. The second defenses realize that all they have to do is disguise where pressure is coming from, were cooked.

Stroud when not forced to think much can look really good, because he's got the physical ability.... he just doesn't seem to have the mental ability to handle the duties of a top tier QB.

 

Max? Nah. But he'll get around 50ish just because its part of the game. I would look to move him next off season if he doesnt improve.

 

Offer him a short Baker/Sam Darnold ish contract. If he wants Jordan Love type of money then start exploring a trade.

I do not wanna end up in a Miami Tua situation.

 

if he showed me the last two years that he could play like his rookie year, then yea but he's been abysmal

 

I can’t really blame Cal and Hannah yet. Owners need to trust in their GM and coaches that they hire. Caserio made several bad draft decisions on the OL. Drafting Kenyon Green ahead of Tyler Linderbaum and drafting Blake Fisher ahead of Roger Rosengarten. Both those guys start for the Ravens and the two players Nick drafted became unplayable. The Eagles couldn’t even fix Green. Also Demeco needs to address all the missed tackles and dumb penalties by his defense.

 

I will blame the McNair's - this isn't Cal's first rodeo and they hire the decision makers and set the culture.... the Texans haven't been the worst franchise since the McNair's have been in place, but they have been the epitome of mediocre.

 

Under the McNairs as a whole, the Texans have been as mediocre as it gets. Under Cal, the Texans were the worst franchise in all of the NFL at one point, with the whole easter bunny situation. It was probably the most toxic front office, locker room and staffing as a franchise in those years. Nobody in the FO trusted each other and all the players wanted out and no new players wanted in. It wasnt til recently with Cals whole public relations team that changed his paint chip eating image along with his wife(who definitely wears the pants in their relationship) that things started to turn around with better hirings and more fan outreach.

 

It's impossible to know. THE biggest issue - above everything else, and it's by MILES - is the offensive line. You cannot properly evaluate any aspect of this team - other than the front office - until that is fixed. It is a season-altering mess that is impacting Stroud, Caley, the defense...

Caley hasn't been great - but he's not the GM and he's not the head coach. Unless I hear that Caserio & Ryans gave him full authority over acquiring offensive line help, then I can't hold him responsible for the talent and I'm inclined to cut him some slack on the results.

This is on Caserio and Ryans. I can't wrap my brain around how terribly misguided their approach to the OL was. It should - without rapid and significant improvement - get someone fired. I lean Caserio as his offensive line track record is atrocious.

 

Exactly; well-said. I think too many people are forgetting what an absolute trainwreck this franchise was as recently as Jan 30, 2023 (the day before they hired an actual adult to run their football team).

That was just 31 months ago! 2023 threw everything into chaos and accelerated expectations. But 2.7 years is not enough time to wash the stank out of this organization. They are probably still a year away.

 

It should be obvious that CJ isn't the problem. In fact, he's being hindered by the same incompetence that has plagued this organization from the beginning. I'm assuming many of y'all are experiencing a powerful feeling of Deja Vu. What a circus...