Please Read: The American dream is ending in a psychotic breakdown

For some reason it seems like SpaceGhost didn’t quite understand the OP’s point.

Shocking.

 

the country is on death spiral and the move is to extract whatever money you can in order to move to Switzerland when it all crumbles. For the rest of us it's the ship we are stuck on and there is nothing to be done except enjoy it all the best we can.

 

Look if you examine human history you’ll see that since the dawn on man we have always been tribal and sought violence in order to settle disputes. However just really the past 50 years or so humans have really excelled in being able to exist with more community and empathy than ever before.

The internet and social media has really just removed many of the communal aspects we put in place recently to bring people back to our natural state.

The biggest issue right now in political division is simply power hoarding and attempted dominance. Not just here with Trump but also with Putin in Russia and Xi in his own way with the Asian hemisphere. That attempted dominance flows from the top on down and has created toxic culture everywhere from the halls of Congress to the forums of clutch fans.

The only question is if there is a way to break the cycle of power hungry dominance.

People just really forget about how good we had it communally the past 50 or less years vs the span of humanity.

I’m hopeful that if the dam breaks at the top with the global figureheads being unsuccessful at dominance that it will trickle down into the factions down below. The fact is if we model a positive community here it will have no influence at the top if their power grows. However if at the top the communal aspect of humanity improves I do think that things would be dramatically better here at the ground floor.

 

so you cant name anything i should apologize for or anything i am wrong about? how about explain exactly how im a fascist? or explain how your rhetoric isnt adding fuel to the fire?

you have been here long enough to know that the D&D in 2025 is very different than it used to be. its a toxic s***hole now full of immature edgelords and the kind of language that used to not be tolerated here. and there are lots of good posters who left, i suspect due to that. its way worse here than it used to be and that is not up for debate.

there are multiple posters in the kirk thread calling for violence against democrats and calling for all-out war. multiple posters calling for violence against other posters. you just called me a "fascist" and "leftist fool" in a thread where the OP was calling for civility. do you not see that?

i have yet to see a single trump supporter condemn or even acknowledge that trump engages in hateful rhetoric and cheers on violence when its done to democrats. not a single trump supporter can acknowledge that their "side" engages in the same kind of rhetoric they accuse liberals of engaging in. NOT A SINGLE ONE. there are right-wing posters who mock violence when its done to democrats and then hypocritically accuse liberals of doing exactly what they do. aside from trump, utah senator mike lee engaged in baseless conspiracy theories and mockery when a democrat congressperson and her husband were murdered 3 months ago and i dont recall any of yall taking issue with that.

@HTM told me that i am responsible for charlie kirks death. i asked him multiple times to condemn right-wing violence and rhetoric and he refused to do so. instead he turned it around and asked me to acknowledge that liberals engage in "inflammatory, dehumanizing and dangerous rhetoric in regards to conservatives"? i replied that some are indeed doing that. there are ***holes across the political spectrum and i can acknowledge that. BUT NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YALL CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME CONSERVATIVES INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT ENGAGE IN THE EXACT SAME RHETORIC. its dishonest and hypocritical.

 

the OP made a very impassioned plea for civility and literally the very next post was stoking the flames.

i wish i could agree that its shocking, but it really isnt.

 

This year has been so full of horrific Hyronomous Bosch s**t that Mr Kirk doesn't even emotionally register for me to be honest. Its one little poke-in-the-ribs in the middle of being beaten to a pulp by an angry mob.

I appreciate if you've been cheering on what appears to me as the dismantling of America and American values this probably seems like a huge escalation. For me it is the sound of distant thunder in the middle of a terrifying lightning storm, with lightning bolts striking the ground around me.

Ill respect your trauma if you respect mine. Not holding my breath, though. We appear to have decided on a political zero sum game, and if that's the game I'll play according to the rules. If one group decided to play all-or-nothing they should expect the same in return. I'm not going to roll over, give up and expire so you can avoid ever having to encounter opinions you don't like.

 

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

The number of deaths in politically motivated terrorist attacks is so tiny that any statistical analysis is extremely fragile. However, there is one consistent finding from analyses of politically motivated terrorism: there aren’t many deaths.

The big fear from politically motivated terrorism is that the pursuit of justice will overreach, result in new laws and policies that overreact to the small threat, and end up killing far more people while diminishing all our freedoms. This is the major lesson from the government’s overreaction to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The government can and should vigorously pursue justice for Kirk and all the others murdered by politically motivated terrorists, but it can and should do so without new political witch hunts, expanded government powers, and a revived war on terrorism. Furthermore, we should all at least realize how uncommon politically motivated terrorism is.

 

I'm happy to be nicer, but not to @Space Ghost. To get back at him, I have been pissing on the door knob of every double-wide in Bayview.

 

Sir, you have offended thousands

 

LOL - that is funny.

DD

 

I can appreciate the call for civility. I haven't really felt it this time round because I now have so many people on ignore, and less curiosity than ever to peek at what they have to say. But I remember past events where things got heated and it makes this place more unpleasant than usual.

But the accompanying editorial is so completely off-base. The American dream is indeed threatened. But the threat is good old-fashioned fascism, not social media or political and other violence. Those things are maybe not great, but they aren't a threat to the American way of life except insofar as they are tools for the fascist coup. I am more worried about the day where we can't say ill-advised things on social media than I am about this day where people are abusing that right.

 

MAYBE with the exception of 1-2 conservatives (who post infrequently), it's not the conservatives on here that are acting with rage and vulgarity. It's the liberals. Don't try to equalize the two, as it's not close to equal. The overwhelming majority of conservatives here are respectful and post their thoughts in good faith, with a spirit towards debating and discussing. This post is done in that manner. Oftentimes, liberals become very angry when they hear an opinion that differs from their world view OR somehow damages their self-identity with the group they associate with. I believe the best solution would be to direct those who need it to resources for training in emotional control and anger management.


GOOD DAY

 

He 100% nails it.

DD

 

*Magazine, not clip.

 

This is how it is across America.

 

I don't know the terminology yet, but it seems like such a pain putting each additional bullet in after the first. Feels so awkward.

 

This is true. I invest in blackrock and pay attention to banks, private equity, and real estate. Real estate is expensive, and that makes it difficult for people who want to invest make a return because there not a lot of room to appreciate - but they have a ton to invest, and their holdings are deep - they can withstand anything. Especially if they buy gold...

Buy up gold and in an economic collapse with hyper inflation - gold becomes the standard - won't ever devalue. Everything else tanks - the dollar, and all real estate plummets.....and then these guys buying power just skyrockets - and what do they do - buy up all that property at bargin basement prices.

When things settledown and order is restored and things start to recover, they are now the owners of so much more. Their power has increased. They are wealthier by 10x fold if not more. They officially become the ruling class. Land owners of the entire country with all the liquid assets to boost.

It's actually brilliant. MAGA people are being unwittingly used to bankrupt themselves to people like Trump and their cronies can buy up all their land on the cheap. It's why I am looking at foreign accounts and moving my money more and more into foreign property, inflation protected assets like precious metals, and investing in economies that will weather the storm very well.