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[AP] Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah college event

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Sep 10, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    Smartest thing ive heard today on either side
     
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    This is what all of us have to do. There is just too much noise
     
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    I wrote he had “anti fascist stuff” written on the shells. That comes directly from mainstream media reporting (BBC, specifically). If you want to believe he was just quoting a random video game without giving any thought to the meaning, ok, but don’t accuse me of making things up. Alright?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp



    Meanwhile, other casings could be interpreted as sympathetic to Antifa, or the anti-fascist movement, a loose collection of far-left activists who have been active in the US over the last decade and often demonstrate against Trump policies and far-right groups.

    One unfired casing had the words "Hey fascist! Catch!" and an up, right and three down arrows.

    The three down arrows alone could be a common symbol used for anti-fascism. As a whole, the arrows could reference a sequence of control inputs in a video game - although this remains unclear, and authorities have not yet released images of the casings.

    A second casing was inscribed with lyrics to the song "Bella Ciao" that honours World War Two-era partisans of the Italian resistance who fought Nazi Germany.

    Authorities said Mr Robinson also appeared to have been active on Discord, the social media platform primarily used by gamers, but now also popular with other communities.

    His roommate reportedly showed investigators a series of messages on Discord from a contact named "Tyler" referencing a rifle "drop point" and instructions about retrieving and hiding the weapon.​
     
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    Local officials and reputable news sources is what I’d go with. Not social media accounts and not the Trump administration.
     
  5. juicystream

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    We would all hope not. I'd like to think I would do it, but who knows unless put in the position?

    I applaud the dad for making an impossible choice.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    I dunno that he had one, as an officer of the law, he would have been fired........

    DD
     
  7. DaDakota

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    SO ****ING MUCH THIS....

    Congress could fix this by letting people TURN OFF the Algorithms and making platforms responsible for truth on their sites....that is what Europe is doing....

    The USA is a ****ing cess pool we worship at the almighty dollar instead of doing what is right for society.

    DD
     
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    I'm definitely waiting to find out more. The trump costume when he was 14ish means nothing. That he's from a conservative family and town means nothing. Safe to say he wasn't brainwashed college student as some would have wanted to paint him as. Honestly seems like a pretty normal person. Reminds me a lot of my 18 year old son and his friends, on what little we know about him. And my son is definitely a leftist who doesn't really like politics and his friends are MAGA. :eek:
     
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    You don’t have to explain or justify anything to astro123 aka Baghdad Bob. He spammed the D&D for 4 1/2 years with all things Joe Biden. He wants to convince us that Joementia is the greatest president in the entire history of America and the senile old fart can walk on water.

    He has zero credibility. There is an entire thread created in his honor. Just look up the dipshit morons thread.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    The problem is capitalistic objectives
    The ideal that a society is suppose to be for everyone
    instead we want a society where everyone serves the "winners"
    Humanity is too concerned with Hierarchy.
    Unfortunately we have reached a point where
    It is better to HAMPER the next man than to Improve yourself - mentality
    It is ok to suffer as long as someone else is suffering more - mentality

    The power dynamics are so out of wack
    The Rich "Winners" can now pick and choose who wins and who loses
    They enjoy that power to increase their winnings

    The primary problems is . ..
    1. There is no bottom - to the deprivity of the modern capitalist
    2. There is no limit to the greed. . . .. .

    What can you do with a Trillion Dollars that you cannot do with 100 Billion?
    There generally is only one answer . . . F*CK WITH OTHER PEOPLE
    CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE

    Rocket River
    People are always looking for the next slave
     
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    Has Nancy Mace or tramp or anyone else in congress apologized for immediately blaming the "evil left", what a sick bunch of people while on the same day kids are being shot in Colo by a white supremacist............they are HYPOCRITES

    Kirk was a POS but did not deserve this, but knowing he comes from a white Mormon conservative family and seems like a normal kid just raises more questions, a few stations talked to the neighbors, and they all said there a God-fearing loving family

    I watched the news conference and when the governor said social media is a Cancer he was spot on, it is ruining this country with lies on top of lies that these kids and adults actually believe and they consume SO MUCH, for some its their entire life...................I am all for free speech, but when everyone is passing lies around how do you monitor it? Do we just let this continue?

    I have never shot a gun and no nothing about them, but that shot looked to be between 150-200 yards.......................was that luck, or can some normal kid actually do that, I thought this guy would be a sniper or something with years of training. It does appear he has had guns in his life for many years
     
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    That's the thing though. People said that about guys like Ted Bundy too. There is a mental illness in those who kill for pleasure, for extremist beliefs, politics, or anything else. It can happen to any kid who was raised in a loving home. I think that some are mentally disturbed from a very young age, and others can be manipulated into believing the "killing" is justified for the cause, whatever that may be. That's why some of those online hate groups, extremists, and such recruit people and feed their young or vulnerable minds with toxic stuff to make them believe they are "patriots" or "heroes" by killing for the cause, and taking out the so called enemies the extremist group hates. Who knows what kind of stuff made that kid so mentally ill or brainwashed to believe he needed to kill someone.

    Regardless, there is far too much hate spewing and finger pointing at Democrats or Republicans who have no part in hate groups, terrorist groups, and extremist groups, and who actually condemn all violence. I expect our President, Vice President, and all elected officials to condemn all violence, and stop with toxic and biased takes, minimizing or ignoring one death and amplifying another. Most importantly, stop blaming anyone but the perpetrator himself, and accomplices if there were any. Maybe he was always a bit disturbed. Not everyone seeks treatment. Some families pretend they don't see it in a loved one.
     
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    WSJ is also backpedaling ....


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    Per usual, the right wingers here fled as soon as they found out more information. Same **** with the Minnesota shooter.
     
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    to show what trump doing in the video is very similar to the fake tweet

    you wouldn't think it would happen in real life but it just did
     
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    I read somewhere he had a good ACT score and had a scholarship to college, but only went briefly. I think that was on his mom’s Facebook account. This kid decided to stay at home and live with his parents.

    College ain’t for everyone and young adults people live with their parents for a lot of reasons. The best reasons are financial ones. But considering the family owned a construction company and lived in a very nice house, it would seem unlikely that this kid was staying at home to save money on rent if he really wanted to go out into the real world, work and learn to become an adult.

    Continuing with college could have done this kid some good. I wonder if he heard somewhere that college and education is a waste of time and professors are just trying to indoctrinate young kids.
     
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    Hahahahha

    99% of the time its always the usual suspects doing these things.
     
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    If they want to know why we laugh at them, this is another example of why
     
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    Tyler Robinson was linked to 4chan Alt-right group GROYPERS

     
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