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[AP] Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah college event

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Sep 10, 2025 at 4:40 PM.

  1. Rvo384

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    What? It DID hit his artery that’s why he bled out so fast. Unless you haven’t seen the video because blood was coming out by the load.

    also, it was one shot. Pinpoint.
     
  2. Rileydog

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    There is a twitter post by a dude named Kirk Lubimov that says and seems to show the bullet ricocheted off a bullet proof vest Kirk was wearing, then into his neck. I’m no gun expert, and I don’t know who Lubimov is, but I thought I would point this out.

    im not posting the tweet here bc it is quite disturbing, even though most of us have seen it by now
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    This is almost a gas-lighting situation. There is no reason for the Left to kill Kirk. His death changes nothing. He was just another MAGA blowhard. That shot seemed to be carried out by a Professional Sniper. To hit the jugular like that from a distance? And now the police cannot find him.
     
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    again, you can't know that it was a "pinpoint shot to the artery" or that the shooter "was trained" or "trained" his shot at the artery. You can't know that. Anyone who has ever shot a deer knows that that there are many variables to shot placement, including last-second movements that change the point of impact. And unless you personally know WHO the shooter is, you cannot know anything about where the shooter "was trained" to shoot and/or "trained his shot."
     
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  5. Os Trigonum

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    again, this is just ignorant speculation--and I don't mean that to be insulting. One generally cannot "aim" at the jugular. More likely than not the shooter was attempting a head shot and hit low, or a center-of-mass shot at the chest/heart region and hit high.

    Too many factors right now at play that people are completely ignorant about. I'd recommend waiting until we find out more about the shooter
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Trump?

    BTW - what if Trump ordered the hit as a way to distract from Epstein? .....Yeah, I know super out there.....but the way all the Rt wing people are suddenly spouting the same nonsense seems choreographed maybe it is....


    DD
     
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  7. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Ultimately, the hate wasn’t worth it. It never is.
     
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    Trump's reaction is to stoke the flames. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter is a MAGA nut driven by their current obsession over Epstein.
     
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  9. elrond

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    Not a gun person at all, so maybe someone who has military or other experience can chime in, but is the neck normally the target? I saw others saying normally you would aim for the head, but the shooter probably wasn't a good shot and hit the neck instead.
     
  10. jo mama

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    or by US intel agencies as a pretext to go full gestapo on the country.

    or kirks gay lover. just like paul pelosi...right trumpers?
     
  11. thegary

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    You ae kidding right, or you are the most willfully ignorant person in all magaland….
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    No, you wouldn't aim for the neck. One would either aim for the T-box, or center mass on the chest, more likely the second on an unarmored target that you don't need to instantly incapacitate.
     
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    I'm not kidding. The quote doesn't change anything about how I look at his murder. He, and other like-minded Republicans, are willing to accept tragic gun deaths because of their religious attachment to the 2nd amendment. Will his murder tilt that in any way? No. So, this is not a demonstration of hypocrisy.

    So what is the point of bringing up the quote, other than to sneer about him being killed? I just find it distasteful to bring up so soon after his murder.
     
  14. thegary

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    I may have slightly misread your intentions but maybe not. He was a terrible person. Laws of Hammurabi and all that…
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Right the night of the Long knives for Trump.

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  16. jo mama

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    that other thread is f***ing pathetic, but not surprising. right-wingers gleefully calling for civil war and going after liberals. we dont even know the shooter yet, but it doesnt matter...this is the opportunity they have been salivating for. many of the loudest voices in there blaming liberals and saying how disgusting liberals are for celebrating this are the exact same ones who cheered on paul pelosi getting attacked and made fun of him, the michigan gov kidnapping plot, jan 6th "hostages", ect. there is definitely going to be some more assassinations and political violence as a result of this.

    political violence and murder are always wrong. that shouldnt be debatable. i hate that this happened and i feel horrible for his wife and young kids. nobody deserves this. its awful for his family and awful for the country.

    we need leaders who will try to unite the country, but instead we have trump who will only fan the flames.
     
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  17. Nook

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    He was murdered and it was senseless. His family had to witness it. Horrific.

    He did say some pretty absurd things and spiteful things not backed by facts. He blamed the number of Texas flood deaths on DEI. He asked supporters to bail out the guy that attacked Nancy Pelosi’s wife.

    He also pitched voter fraud and Trump for a third term.

    If you ever went to one of his events, he is generally cordial but doesn’t really debate - if he loses leverage he fires the crowd up, changes the subject etc.

    He seemed to be a cordial man. He is controversial and has said some misleading of silly things - but he is far from the first to do so. I am genuinely concerned about the political divide and overall political incompetence of leaders in the USA. I hear from my friends in China it isn’t much better there, but at least they have a unified plan.
     
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  18. Nook

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    Dave Rubin and Charlie Kirk were not just buddies - they were Russian buddies. Both took money from the Russian state to spread lies to the American people. Usually that would be a big deal but the burnout was/is real. The American people can only hear the sky is falling so many times from Democrats and can only process so much unbridled corruption and pandering from the Republicans before they tune it out.
     
  19. Nook

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    People believe that 9/11 was an inside job with demolitions.

    People believe that Biden attempted to take out the President with an autistic Manchurian candidate.

    People believe Trump didn’t get nicked in the ear, that it was fake blood.

    People believe there was voter fraud in 2020 and Trump won the election.

    People believe transgendered shouldn’t own or have access to guns.

    People believe that electric cars and recycling plastic bottles will fix the environment.

    We live in a world of alternative facts and all opinions are equal regardless of lack of education.

    Science doesn’t matter - neither does math… we have trans extremists changing basic science because they don’t like it- we have vaccine idiots arguing it causes autism because they read it somewhere.

    This will be no different and this contagion isn’t limited to illogical Trumpers, liberals have jumped on the bandwagon of fake news and alternative facts.

    The Mad Hater has served tea… so no, it is clear that Kirk was killed by a trained assassin that hit him in a quarter inch area severing his aorta and artery and killing him instantly. It is also obvious that either ANTIFA did it on orders from AOC or Vance hired Joe Rogan to have one of his SEAL hunting buddies do it so we can all be permanent slaves to 5 investment bankers that control the world.
     
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    Huh, wouldn't it be just like Trump to kill a guy saying this, and then use it to flame the rhetoric war, and distract from the Epstein files.

    He already blew up a boat in Venezuela with zero evidence......

    Just saying...

    DD
     

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