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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. deb4rockets

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    I get that, but then why do some of the same people who have a problem with "illegal immigration" support and vote for a felon? Or why do they support "illegal" deportations, "illegal" withholding of approved funding, "illegal" use of military troops, or all the other illegal things Trump has done in the past, or continues to do right now?

    Some guy working illegally picking corn, cleaning dishes, doing yardwork, working construction, or running a business seems like a minor thing compared to someone illegally using their power on the lives of everyone in the country as an act of vengeance towards people they don't like or as an act of favoritism towards big money loyalists feeding their pockets.
     
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  2. Rileydog

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    By the way, I am genuinely interested in your response to my post and hope you will. As I said before, I have a lot of respect for someone will acknowledge facts - that the presence of illegal immigrants in this country is a product of Republican and Democrat president policy.

    I would like to know if you think I misrepresented raining threes positions.

    I would like to know if you think those positions are inconsistent as to enforcing the law.

    I would like to know if you think those positions are prejudicial to brown people, legal and illegal.

    I would also like to know whether you think deportation should be handled in a way that does not demonize all brown people and comports with law and due process.

    Like I said, I respect that you are one of the few people who will state facts about both parties being responsible for illegal immigrants in this country. It is obvious to you and me that both parties sought to exploit cheap illegal labor.

    That is why I would like to know your views about these issues I identified.
     
  3. Commodore

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    LMAO
     
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    It should be hard to enter the country and jobs should go to US citizens 1st. We also should be able to do the biometrics so we can keep up with their activities and reduce the chances of another 9-11 if they want to enter this country. Once again this is a case of liberal being against keeping American citizens safe over the rights of foreigners that are being let into the country.
     
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    Bogus conviction

    Withholding what funds illegally?


    What Trump's doing in DC is legal, what you should ask yourself is why governors/mayors of states/cities dont want help cleaning up crime in their cities. Could it be that governors/mayors dont care about the minority citizens lives in their cities/states?
     
  7. Corrosion

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    Because legal immigrants aren't much of an issue. They go thru the process and get admitted. Sure, you could streamline that process to make it simpler for those who do qualify ..... but again, they aren't the problem aside from those that overstay their visa.

    There's two other groups that are the problem:

    Those who claim asylum, where some vast majority do not qualify because they are only fleeing economic hardship and that isn't grounds for asylum.
    We all know that most of these asylum cases are not valid, yet we waste the time and resources seeing them thru their end - and the end of the process results in an order of removal which took years to wind it's way thru the courts ... by that time most of them say Screw it, I'm here, I'll stay until they make me leave.


    Then the final group - those that just walk in and stay - screw your process. I'm here, catch me if you can .... I'll be back next week.


    You tell me, what should immigration reform look like?
     
  8. deb4rockets

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    What you should ask yourself is what makes you judge and jury on his accusations of rape, tax fraud, obstruction of justice, attempts to steal an election, planning a coup, inciting an insurrection, or anything else? Why do you always choose to believe the words of a pathological liar? Seriously, that makes no sense. He's a liar! To trust and believe a pathological liar is just stupid.

    What you should ask yourself is why you believe mayors and governors who have reduced crime substantially the past year don't care about fighting crime. Trump lies about crime. He flat out lies! If you believe fighting crime can only be done with military and a police state you would probably love living in North Korea or some other type regimes. Why spend billions using military instead of pouring federal money into the state police departments for better equipment, top notch forensic labs, better training, support, and funding for personnel, and community outreach and resources, tip lines and rewards and such? The military should not be Trump's enforcers of retribution towards Americans, or his political pawns. Trump is doing plenty of illegal things, just like he has his whole life. One day I hope you finally realize that.
     
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    77 million people were judge and jury.

    One death is too many. Any life saved is a plus. Like I said, these gov's/mayors dont care about minority lives. Plus it's been said the Biden administration cooked the books when it comes to the crime numbers. Two things are for sure 1. The citizens/mayor of DC are happy and crime has gone down to virtually nothing in 3 weeks time. 2. No laws were broken when Trump decided to deploy the National Guard in DC.
     
  10. astros123

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    It's hilarious you guys take this guy seriously. You have said repeatedly in this thread that mass deportations wouod help native born americans find jobs and help lower income folks buy houses.

    -native born unemployment is at 5 year high now
    -black unemployment is at a 5 year high
    -Latino unemployment is at 5 year high
    - youth unemployment is at a 5 year high
    -housing market is all time high

    Your dumbass theory of mass deportations will open up all sorts of opportunities came out wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Youre just injected with hate by RW media who have told you illegals are the root of all problems spelling and not private equity. Clueless
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    No, not in any legal shape or form in regards to his many criminal charges. You guys just voted for him. That doesn't make him innocent of criminal activity.
    So call in the military any time we want to fight crime? Why? Is this your new version of America the great?

    Why not pour resources into police funding and give cities more help to fight crime?
    Uh huh. Who said it? The pathological liar Trump? What proof do you have that crime didn't go down in many major cities?
     
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    everybody drink
     
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    You asked me a question and I posted a good faith response. I even gave you credit for speaking the truth on the bi partisan origin of the immigration issue.

    Are the issues and questions Imposed too difficult to address? Do they raise some uncomfortable truths that you and Raining threes don’t want to admit?
     
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    Its also funny how the MAGA in this thread pretend Trump is pro worker lmao
     
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  15. deb4rockets

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    That economy they thought Trump would make great didn't happen. That inflation he promised to end didn't happen. Those electric bills he promised to cut in half are going up, and the job market is spiralling down and down. But hey, drink up to Trump family grifters making a fortune off their influence and power to get billionaires, oil barons, and tech bros to donate big in tit for tat favors, and invest in their money making projects. The Trump family is reaping in billions. Cheers to Trump from the dumbasses not in his circle of billionaires who think he cares about them.
     
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    The charges were BS and the American people could see through the lawfare and voted for Trump. Especially record numbers of black/brown people. In return Trump's trying to make the cities/states they live in safer. You should live on the South Side of Chicago for 2 months and report back to us.

    Bottom line is what Trump's doing is working and that's why the libs cant stand it. We've tried doing what your talking about by funneling more money into these liberal cities for the last 50 yrs. This is a failed experiment and now it's time to do something different, which is exactly what Trump's doing and I'll say this is way past overdue. The Summer of Love/ BLM crap isn't happening this time around during Trump's time in office.

    He's not messing around this time around and he doesn't care what libs like yourself think. Why, because the libs tried to break him financially, put him in jail and when that didn't work they tried to kill him. He feels like he's called by god to do what he's doing. (Mainly save lives)
     
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  17. deb4rockets

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    Trump has never been pro worker. It was all BS to get the votes. Greed is an ugly thing, and a billionaire boss who never thinks he makes enough money will do anything to make more of a profit.
     
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    It's only been 6 months and the juries still out. It's probably going to be 2 yrs before we know if Trump's tariff policies are going to work. So far inflation hasn't risen due to the tariffs as many experts (Mostly libs/Rino's) predicted.
     
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    I would say that all of the companies that are moving to the USA says differently.
     
  20. deb4rockets

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    If you truly believe all Republicans and Independents approve of a military state, abuse of power, and America moving from Democracy to an Authoritarian regime you are mistaken. That's as un-American as it gets. It's not just "Liberals" as you say. Is that your term for any non-MAGA person or anyone who doesn't like Trump?

    I hate to tell you, but Trump has failed miserably to make things better in practically every area that matters.
     

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