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The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Scarface281, Jan 25, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    Just to correct your outright lies...

    41% of employment growth under Biden came from non-citizens. A staggering figure -- and a slap in the face to the working and middle class American citizen... especially African Americans... No one can say that they helped the working class when the border was wide open and Biden was flying illegals into the country to take the low-income jobs away from citizens.

    The 900 new factories quote that you posted is just an outright lie. There is no basis for this whatsoever. And most of the investments in projects under the IRA either is out into the future or won't materialize... and much of it is green energy fantasies like "clean tech".

    Adding union applications is NOT the same as adding union jobs -- shocking that this has to be explained.

    ICE agents make six figures -- union jobs making $60k are not that exciting... especially after Biden's inflation eroded the purchasing power of the dollar and gutted the middle + working class quality of life.


    You simply do not understand economics or the business world... and you don't know what you don't know. Makes sense because you don't participate in this world (you are a pharmacist, no?).


    GOOD DAY
     
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    You're getting gas at the wrong places, or maybe you don't live in Texas.

    Drilling will somewhat bring down costs, but you're right refineries need to be updated and new refineries need to be built. This would help.create new jobs. There's a production problem. Of course having fewer people in the USA would also help from a usage standpoint.
     
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    Preach to those that don't understand.
     
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    You really think this was all about Trump? TDS is strong.
     
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    Another dumbass post

    White native unemployment reached record lows under biden

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000003

    Black unemployment reached record LOW under biden. Lower than what trump accomplished

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000003

    Also the 900 only counts those that have advanced into construction or completed. Over 133 billion dollars has already been invested. Not some bullshit "pinky promise pledge" which your cult hero gets. You can literally see the projects for yourself

    https://e2.org/announcements/

    You and your other cultists @raining threes live in some delusional reality where we didnt see record manufacturing spending under Biden and factories opening left and right.



    Again quit the act
     
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    I don't live in Texas. It was just easy to view my history at Kroger (so those were the same price at the same Kroger 10 months apart, which is as close as I could get to one year gap). Since I drive an EV (and have for most of the last 2.5 years) I don't buy a lot of gas.
     
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    That's inconvenient.
     
  10. raining threes

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    I buy a lot of gas for my company vehicles and trust me prices for gas have gone down.
     
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    inflation has gone up over the last few months and it is below 3%. both statements can be true texxx/jorge/mojoman/conquistaor/strosb4bros. and trumps tariffs are one of the reasons it is going up.

    consumers end up paying more due to tariffs. this was accepted fact until trump came along and started telling yall otherwise.
     
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    you couldnt even get through 1/4 of a sentence before saying something that is flat-out wrong. prices have gone up due to tariffs and that is not debatable. we are only seeing the beginning of price increases. its going to get worse.
     
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    No. It's about OPEC wanting Republican/corrupt policies that line the pockets of oil and gas oligarchs that fund the GOP, and Trump as well as the petro states that make money off the oil and gas industry, and see green initiatives as an existential threat to their wealth.

    That's not TDS. That's just a fact. OPEC would try and help out virtually any Republican candidate, and would try and hurt virtually any Democratic American president that was actively trying to fund clean energy initiatives, and diversify the energy market for consumers to have lower costs, more efficiency, a cleaner product, and lower costs.... you know... Capitalism.
     
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    a good example of TDS is believing him when he tells you that consumers dont absorb the costs of tariffs.
     
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    I mean this question with all due respect..... why would I trust you??

    All the data suggests that while gas prices remain relatively consistent with Biden admin prices, all other costs have gone up. The biggest being property taxes, and insurance which affect us in Texas especially dramatically. Much more than what we might or might not be offsetting with any minor costs savings at the pump.

    To be fair to Trump (I know you think I have TDS so I must be incapable of that) Insurance, Property tax, food costs, etc. were on the increase prior to Trump's 2024 election due to various factors. Mostly due to Covid issues, but Trump did run on making things cheaper, and most independent voters who were polled said they voted for Trump thinking he would bring down costs.

    MAGA or not.... TDS or not..... Trump is failing to do what he promised, and it is a fact that costs overall are getting worse while the wealthy elites continue to get more tax breaks, and benefits while the working class gets squeezed more and more.... while the national debt is ballooning out of control to pay for these tax cuts, defense spending, and entitlements.
     
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    Again, have the tariffs affected your life in any way? The cost of tariffs hasn't even happened yet.

    Also if tarriffs make costs go up 5-10% but foreign investment/jobs happen here in the USA that's a win IMHO.
     
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    They haven't had to absorb them yet and if they do but it brings jobs to this country then that's a win.
     
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    Total BS, do you think OPEC was happy when the USA was the largest exporter of oil in the world during Trmp's 1st term in office?
     
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    I dont give a crap if you believe me or not, I'm just glad I'm saving money. I seem to remember on the campaign trail Trump saying there might be some short term pain for long term gain. So far there's been very little pain and you're still complaining. SMH
     

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