Even Alpi fans are sane enough to see thru Ataman's BS If you want to call an Only Fan base delusional it would be the Jalen fans
He will be mvp if he scores efficiently high volume while doing the other stuff, not all star. And these ranks are great at 23 years old. and a lot of factors you miss by just looking at ranks. He plays some minutes with Adam’s, who is already a great rebounder. He is not injury prone or a cone on defense like kat or sabonis. He impacts offense even if he is not scoring. to be good and above average at all departments is so hard and so impactful. I think this is what you are underestimating. He had one big weakness, his defense but he got so much better at it in incredibly short amount of time.
the owner of clutch fans published a long article on why Bruno Fernando should start for Alpi. I don’t think I will see anything crazier in my life. and that is not the media, it is the coach. It is his style of communication. And he has high ego, wanted an nba job, thinks he can be successful in the nba. That’s his way of expressing it. edit: junk media is very real in soccer, everything about basketball has better quality, players, media, commentators etc. in general
No he wouldn't. If you see both the team impact and individual stats of perennial MVP candidates, they are way better than Sengun's. Jokic for instance has double Sengun's assists and 50% more scoring and more rebounding and more stocks and shoot better from everywhere on the court and he still didn't win MVP last year. For Sengun to be in the MVP conversation, he doesn't need to just be better, he needs to do things he has never done in his life and do them at an elite level.
I mean, it's one approach I guess. I' d say it mostly serves to make him look crazy/deluded more than effective though. They might beat the Silas Rockets, he'd get embarrassed against Ime's Rockets even if Alpi had the game of his life. Clutch is also just a dude with a website, not a professional basketball coach or even pundit. There's a big difference between fans being crazy/deluded and professionals being crazy/deluded.
Yes, but I assume most Rockets fans want Sengun to be more than "alright." At least I have a lot higher expectations of him than that. And he definitely has to be more than that if the Rockets want to compete for a title.
He is not deluded, it is just a different style of communication that doesn’t exist in the states. It is a message to his players, on how good they are. Motivational talks are different in Turkey, balkans, Greece and Italy as well compared to rest of Europe and the USA. That’s why you see coaches going crazy in time outs which is something you’d never see in the nba. They do go crazy but doesn’t come out like that.
What do you expect more man? He is destroying boards in a competition where NBa's and world's best player Jokic plays at the moment in European Championships. NBA's best players are not American, European. Jokic, Doncic and Giannis. Right now Alpi at fourth place in terms of respect and hierarchy in this least in European Championship. Just pray to God and say Amen that from 16th place in 2021, we got a dominating player.
I guess, here in the UK we'd just view that as someone being full of **** more than any kind of motivational talk lol. It's like an MLS coach saying "give me <insert Premier League star player here> and we'll beat Man City!" it just comes across like delusion more than anything else.
You said high volume scoring with better efficiency. That addresses the scoring concerns. That was the assumption. jokic has 12.7 rebounds vs Sengun’s 10.3 with Sengun playing 5 minutes less per game. Considering Sengun gets more offensive rebounds and plays along Adam’s, you can call this a tie easily. And as trajectories go, jokic was grabbing less rebounds than Sengun in more minutes at that stage. jokic has more steals and Sengun has more blocks. The difference in the stocks is not something that has major effect. More importantly Sengun is the better defender at 23 years old(you might not agree with that). the difference comes from assists, and passing. Sengun could easily increase his assist numbers if the rockets played utilizing that more. But he wouldn’t get to jokic level and more importantly jokic does a lot of fantastic passing that impacts the game but that doesn’t show up in the stat line. nevertheless that is jokic and there is only one jokic in history. If you replace his playmaking Sengun 7-8 assists, which is already great for a center and with better defense, I think you are getting a player in the mvp conversation, certainly much above a regular all-star. and as a side note terms of assists jokic was hovering around 7 at Sengun’s age.
I mean, that's cool and all, but the greatest MLS coach of all time doesn't mean **** compared to Alex Ferguson, if you catch my drift? Bear in mind I'm European, I know the actual quality of the basketball played on the continent, and it's not even close now (teenage Luka dominated the highest tier of competition, for example) never mind 10-30 years ago when it's been at times so far apart that it's multiple tiers of difference not a couple. As awesome as it is to be super successful in European basketball, it's still minor leagues. It's not that valid from the NBA perspective. If he was that great, he'd have come to the actual big leagues.
Hard pass, a career European coach who never made it over to coach in the actual top tier 100% has worked there his entire career for a reason. A great coach would've had a gig already, it's hardly like there's no crossover any more, it's not 30 years ago.
I don’t know. The euros were called soft, not athletic and it was thought that they would never be very successful in the nba, 30 years even 15 years back. Now euro mvps and top players roam the league. We probably are in a similar stage with the coaches. I think they can be good in the nba but I am not sure if they will ever get enough opportunities. So while I agree with you to some extent, I think the major problem is the culture difference with coaches than technical as your example with mls indicates.
Also it's not even that crazy. panathianikos / ataman won euroleague last year, has many great players in his squad and has a very very real chance of winning a match against houston rockets - it won't be blowout for sure. ( fiba rules, ofc). i've been watching rockets for that last 4 years and can't believe the confidence greece eliminated a usa squad with lebron, what makes you think having durant means automatic victory?
High volume and very best are different things. It's like the difference between saying someone is rich and saying he's Bill Gates. And if you watch how Jokic plays and how Sengun plays, you'd know that even with the same amount of points, the fact that Jokic can score anywhere on the court is much more impactful than the way Sengun scores.
