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I absolutely HATE sports betting it is a plague and should be banned

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SamFisher, Apr 11, 2024.

  1. Futron

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    That probably was his “punishment “
    They know it’s a deep down the rabbit hole type of thing, so rather than open that up to dig further, he just got screwed out of contract money and let off the hook.

    Reminds me of the ref scandal, he got charged and then we just never heard about it again as if he was the only one doing it
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    They don't want him, they want the people above him he was dealing with. Just like Ohtani's interpreter was feeding the Feds info about that whole SoCal gambling racket.
     
  3. Marshall Bryant

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    The best strategy is to walk away if you're already into it and never start if you haven't. The next best strategy is to bet the fewest times possible. Then walk away. The math starts bad and gets worse with every additional bet.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Truest cliche ever that now can be extended throughout all of our faltering society - "The house always wins"

    Honestly I don't even know what a 6 man is - to me it's like when the Fabulous Free birds would go against Dr Death, Ted Dibiase & Terry Taylor at the Sam Houston Coliseum
     
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  6. Marshall Bryant

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    I guess I'm stubborn , but I can't help thinking this little rowe between the Sports Press and Texans Management over the handling of Mixon's injury has more to do with betting odds than concern for his recovery.
     
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    Not to mention, it’s highly addictive for people who gamble… and somehow by putting a disclaimer is okay and responsible. I’ve seen coworkers who go into panic mode if they don’t put in a bet. Others who have been in debt 10s of thousands. It’s just as bad on your health as cigarettes and alcohol. The worst part is that it opens up possibilities for corruption in the games… not maybe it’s a known fact. So it ruins the product… much like boxing has been ruined.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Sports betting isn't going away, we have criminals running the country, they will try to profit off of it, they have no morals.

    DD
     
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    All this conversation of sports betting dovetails quite neatly with my pet cause: ridding the world of the NCAA and its laughable NIL arrangement for STUDENT-athletes already on scholarship.
    Here in the USA we live in a post-innocence culture, where the ideal of the student-athlete (and amateur athletics for that part) has vaporized under an inequitable arrangement as applied for the entirety of the student body- it's time to shunt those kids with dreams of professional sports to start apprenticing to club teams, as is done in Europe and elsewhere, and to offload the major college athletic programs to those for-profit organizations. The clubs, in turn, would enter into lease arrangements for the existing university athletic facilities, whose proceeds would then be poured back into academic rigor. Athletic scholarships would be converted into something that actually targets community needs, e.g. sponsored STEM degrees for those who apply and qualify for scholarships with a commitment to work x amount of time for one of the sponsors- open to ALL qualified students.
    Bottom line- if you're in college because your sport has no recognized minor league system and you want a stage on which to prove yourself, let for-profit atheletic clubs pick you up. If you're in college to learn, you're in college- simple as that. There's intramurals if you need the activity.
     
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    "Please gamble responsibly" is the most disgusting hypocrisy of all time. It's like telling a serial killer to kill responsibly.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Yep, can't legislate morality, people are going to gamble- so the thinking is might as well tax it.

    If we try to cut out prop bets - those companies just move to Canada, or Grenada or somewhere else it is legal and the Apps get played here.

    DD
     
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    People are also going to murder each other. Should we just tax that and let it go?
     
  13. DaDakota

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    That is just stupid, murder is illegal everywhere, not the same thing...

    DD
     
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    It’s kind of funny a lot of the things that have corrupted our societies are outlawed in Islam. Just saying, even as a non-Muslim.
     
  15. Easy

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    Legislation is always about morality. Why do we outlaw murder? Because it is morally wrong to murder people. Why do we have laws to protect children? Because it is our moral responsibility to protect them.

    It's always about morality. The only question is whose morality.
     
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    Which is my point about legalizing betting for tax revenue.
     
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    Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are so CORRUPT.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    So you want to legalize murder for tax revenue?

    You are working in a false equivalency zone.

    There is no such thing as stopping gambling, it will never happen, no way to enforce it, no way to stop it - people have been betting legally or illegally for years.

    There is no way to legislate out - gambling - it is a waste of resources - you can try to limit it, but laws in one country will just open up the betting in other countries and Americans will go around the laws and bet elsewhere.

    This is a fool's errand.

    DD
     
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    And in truth it's actually worse to make all gambling illegal. It's significantly better to lose money to an above-board legitimate bookmaker/casino than it is to work with the illegal equivalent with no regulations and exploitative methods where you don't just lose what you have, they extend you a line of credit so they can completely bankrupt you and your family for everything you have under threat of violence/death. The solution is never prohibition, that way always only ever enriches the most corrupt, manipulative and exploitative members of society. The true solution is to just offer significantly better support for those who aren't able to gamble responsibly, much like we do with drug users and alcoholics to varying levels of success in any developed country. The balance is what makes it so difficult, but you should never put the power in the hands of the worst criminals around by making things actually prohibited.
     
  20. Hank McDowell

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    Sports betting is fun as hell. It's like any other vice, if you're stupid it'll hurt you. So don't be stupid. Easier said than done for a lot of people though.
     
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