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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

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  1. Space Ghost

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    You only care about what you're told to care about
     
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  2. CCorn

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    Which countries do a better job of governance?
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Depends on your metrics. If you want free market and robust economy, there is no better place than the good ol USA.
     
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    Deckard Blade Runner
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    After reading that post, it's easy to see why you support trump. How bizarre.
     
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    The conservative-leaning OC Register has offered this Op-Ed

    We know all too much about Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an apparently formerly quiet construction worker who immigrated to
    this country without papers when he was 16, on the run from a violent gang in El Salvador. Though he entered the US illegally,
    he is married to an American citizen with whom he has American children, is an asylum applicant
    We certainly know that it would be better for Garcia, for his family, and oddly enough for the nation if we knew nothing at all about him.

    Instead, he has apparently randomly become a scapegoat buffeted about within the cruelty and incompetence of the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

    Though he is without any evidence accused by the White House of being a member of the MS-13 gang, his actual criminal ties are on the receiving end of a San Salvador gang, Barrio 18, that tried to extort money from his mother’s pupusa cart business. The gang tried to force his elder brother to join it, or he would be killed. His mother sent that brother, Cesar, to the U.S. Then the gang started to follow Kilmar Garcia when was about 12, and later threatened to kill him. His mother then sent Kilmar to the U.S. as well. The judge who granted him residency said that the evidence showed Garcia would face violence if he ever were to return to El Salvador.

    Yet the White House plucked Garcia from obscurity by doing just that, deporting him to El Salvador in March, through what it
    later described as “an administrative error.” He had at the time never been accused of a crime either here or in his Central American homeland, and yet ended up in the Terrorism Confinement Center in the nation’s capital. It’s a multi-million dollar legalistic soap opera,
    what has happened in the months since Garcia was finally sent back to the States after the error.​
     
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  6. Space Ghost

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    I dont support most of Trumps actions. Nice try though.
     
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    cont'd


    The latest administration ploy was asking him to plead guilty to human trafficking and then be deported to the only relatively non-authoritarian country in Central America, Costa Rica. Garcia’s lawyers said that since he wasn’t guilty, he wouldn’t cop the plea.

    So the White House now says it will deport him to Uganda, the East African nation, with which he has zero ties.'

    they don’t think that the screw-up is a sign of the cruelty and incompetence of immigration policies that are merely playing to their base rather than staying rooted in logic and a push for reform immigration laws. If the White House wanted solutions to the problem of so many illegal immigrants in the country, they would be working tirelessly with Congress, the only body that can produce legislation that can solve the problem. As Republicans in the House face upcoming mid-term elections, all this White House grandstanding rather than hard work on immigration is not going to serve them well.​
     
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    You make where you lean perfectly obvious.
     
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    Then prove it in court.... not sure why yall are so afraid of doing that.....
     
  10. Space Ghost

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    Definitely not in fantasy left field. However that doesn't mean I can't disagree with the other side. I do have the ability to think for myself instead of lock stepping with corrupt political parties.

    I have yet to see you disagree with Democrats
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    I have repeatedly stated idc about the fate of killmore one way or the other.
     
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    And how are you any different? Like seriously…..?

    If you say so… you were arguing to deport him earlier.

    I’m just a fan of due process.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Wow,

    Why is it only mediocre at best when this is still the greatest nation?
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    We are economically the greatest nation.
    Our education and healthcare are seriously lacking. I could go on with other deficiencies.
     
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    How dare you. @strosb4bros says that if you criticize this country, you hate this country. Nationalism is what every great country is built upon.
     
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    It's all that matters, everything else can be fixed from there
     
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    Norway, Denmark, Sweden, France, England, Germany, hell so fricken many.

    DD
     

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