The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

So what?

The actions take against Trump, a former POTUS, by politically motivated prosecutors were unprecedented as well.

 

There is still a difference. The crimes Trump committed were big. Incensed millions of people. Even if Trump left politics forever, I and millions of other people would have still wanted to see him prosecuted. What Cook is even accused of is petty. Small dollar. Nobody would bother with it if there wasn't political advantage in it.

 

You wanted to see Trump prosecuted because you, and millions of others, HATE Trump. No other reason. No rationale person really believes these crimes are "big" crimes.

Alving Bragg prosecuted Trump for falsifying business records using an untested and "novel" legal theory. That's a "Big" crime but Mortgage fraud isn't? Sure.

Leticia James brought a civil fraud case on behalf of the state of New York against Trump for "inflating the value of his properties" on financial statements? That's a "Big" crime but Mortgage fraud - which is essentially the same crime - isn't?

DOJ - Brought a case against Trump for keeping some banker boxes of classified documents at his residence after he left office - That's a "big" crime? You can find examples of any number of high level politicians doing that including Joe Biden. It's entirely routine.

Wow. Such BIG crimes. These crimes really must have INCENSED millions.

These were all petty and entirely politically motivated prosecutions... and Trump came back into power... he isn't going to forget, nor should he.

Democrats should reap what they sowed.

 

When has removing independent oversight of monetary policy worked well? Turkey is a recent example of a leader meddling in interest rates for ideological reasons and their economy was upended.

 

I'm not concerned, the billionaires the own most of the SC Justices would never allow such a move.

 

Democrats seek ‘immediate answers’ after reported arrests of firefighters by US border agents
Senator Patty Murray calls Trump’s immigration policy ‘fundamentally sick’ after incident in Washington state

The Guardian

Patty Murray, the Washington senator, has called for the Trump administration to provide “immediate answers” about reports that two firefighters were detained by border agents as they were responding to a wildfire in the state.

Federal immigration authorities on Wednesday staged an operation on the scene of the Bear Gulch fire, a nearly 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) blaze in the Olympic national forest, where they arrested two people who were part of a contract firefighting crew, the Seattle Times first reported. The fire is the largest currently burning in the state.

The identities of the firefighters have not been made public and federal immigration officials have not said why they were arrested.

In a statement released on Thursday morning, Murray demanded information about the whereabouts of the firefighters and the administration’s policy around immigration enforcement during wildfires.

“This administration’s immigration policy is fundamentally sick. Trump has wrongfully detained everyone from lawful green-card holders to American citizens – no one should assume this was necessary or appropriate,” she said.

The senator said the president had been undercutting firefighting abilities in other ways, including by “decimating” the US Forest Service. The administration significantly cut budgets and staffing at the agencies that manage much of the country’s federal lands, leaving the US unprepared for this year’s fire season, the Guardian previously reported.

“Here in the Pacific north-west, wildfires can [burn] and have burned entire towns to the ground. We count on our brave firefighters, who put their lives on the line, to keep our communities safe – this new Republican policy to detain firefighters on the job is as immoral as it is dangerous,” said Murray, who has represented Washington in the US Senate since 1993.

“What’s next? Will Trump start detaining immigrant service members? Or will he just maintain his current policy of deporting Purple Heart veterans?”

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I do HATE Trump. Because he is a criminal and a corrupt politician. Corruption especially pisses me off. So yeah, I hate him and want to see him prosecuted because he is a criminal. I'll own that.

His civil fraud James went after him for netted him a half-billion dollar benefit. I would say that is big. How much money could Lisa Cook have gained from her alleged fraud? $10k, maybe?

But you forget about the time he leaned on Georgia to find more votes to steal an election. And the time he tried to blackmail a foreign leader to fabricate a scandal against his political opponent. And I'm pretty sure he is a rapist too. It's galling that he had done all this and much more with impunity because the electorate is so damn gullible that they voted to give him a get out of jail free card.

 

Trump didn’t just keep classified documents. He refused to return them after given multiple chances to do so. He lied about having them. That is not “entirely routine”.

Joe Biden had classified documents. He returned them when asked. That is “entirely routine”.

Don’t let the facts get in the way of your very trumpy, very false equivalency.

 

(pssst, MAGA dont care)

 

You can hate Trump all you want. You can cheer his persecution by politically motivated actors.

Just don't be a hypocrite when the shoe is on the other foot and Trump starts politically motivated investigations and prosecutions.

 

You didn't "not commit a crime" just because you voluntarily returned the classified documents. That's not how it works bozo.

Sleepy Joe leaving banker boxes of classified documents in his garage is as much a crime as Trump leaving banker boxes of classified documents in his bathroom at Mar-A-Lago.

 

If Trump's handling of tariffs provides any insight into exactly how ignorant of economic theory Trump is, Trump will set the prime rate to 100%, 1% and -1500%, all in the same week.

And the usual suspects here will claim that Trump is only doing what he promised.

 

That was not my point and you know it.

You mean to tell me you can’t understand the difference between Biden returning the documents upon request and Trump refusing to and lying about having them? Yes, Biden committed a crime. So did Trump. Trumps was far more egregious.

I’m not the bozo that can’t tell the difference or, more appropriately, refuses to acknowledge it.

@strosb4bros - This right here is an example of the difference between MAGA and Dems that I was talking about. Mindless adherence and defense of Trump, whereas Dems can call it like it is. No, not all Dems do, that’s correct. But all MAGA are utterly incapable of acknowledging basic facts and must mindlessly defend Trump.

 

Also, Trump's crime was more egregious on the sole purpose of being Trump..... Its just the way it is.....

 

I’ll trade you honesty for honesty. Yes, Trump was prosecuted in part because he is Trump.

Now you admit that Trump’s refusal to return the documents and lying about having the documents was more egregious than Biden’s behavior.

You can do it. It’s actually not that hard. If you can do it, you’re better than @HTM

 

Biden was VP when he took the classified documents and recklessly stored them in his garage.... and as VP he did not receive the Presidential protections that Trump did... so these cases are NOT the same... Trump committed no crime, Biden did.

Once again liberals lack a basic understanding of the facts... and get it backwards. Take another L, amigo!


GOOD DAY

 

I've never said Trump was moral, yes lying was worse than Biden... Trump lies alot.....

 

Ah yes, I forget, some folks are gonna cling to the rulings of Judge bought and owned by Trump. But oh dear, if you’re gonna play lawyer, do try to get it right.

Ok little Jorge, on what basis did Judge Aileen Loose Cannon dismiss the classified documents case? Was it presidential immunity? Was presidential immunity even at issue? No, the Cannon dismissed the case on the novel grounds that special counsel was not appropriately appointed.

Wait, so what did presidential immunity have to do with the disposition of the classified documents case? Yes, that’s right little Jorge, absolutely nothing.

Did you say something about lacking a basic understanding of “facts”? Facts like the actual legal basis for disposition of the classified documents case?

Run along. Class dismissed.

 

You’re miles better than @HTM.

He is so MAGA he can’t acknowledge those things.

 

Well, Trump never won on morality, experience or even competence... Trump won because Dems decided to run Hillary and completely forgot about an entire half of the country that did/does not like far left liberalism....