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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. SamFisher

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    I don't feel like pulling it up but basically you're arguing with a variant of Tulsi Gabbard - a consistent total Putin Piss Baby dating back years, decades even - prior to the invasion.

    someone for whom there's no number of war crimes or bombed hospitals and playgrounds or gang rapes that will ever swerve them from the *core belief * that whatever Putin does is good, because it's Putin that's doing it.

    This is how this ****ing idiot finds himself loudly trumpeting MAGA talking points and sounding like JD Vance - doesn't matter if you align with Trump and the worst scum of the MAGA multiverse of horror, Putin must be protected (on a basketball message board?) at all costs by this individual.
     
  2. deb4rockets

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    Looking back....

    MARCH 2023: “There’s a very easy negotiation to take place. But I don’t want to tell you what it is because then I can’t use that negotiation; it’ll never work,” Trump told Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity, claiming that he could “solve” the war “in 24 hours” if he were back in the White House.

    “That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president.”

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    Now that Trump finally realizes he's been a Putin puppet along and finally realizing what everyone except MAGA loyalists have been saying about Putin all along, will the MAGA folks who sided with Putin now flip flop and support actions against Russia? Of course they will. What Trump says is all that matters, not what people have been telling them all along about Putin.

    Trump agrees to send weapons to Ukraine
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/14/trump-sends-weapons-ukraine-00451109

    President Donald Trump on Monday again threatened to raise tariffs on India over its Russian oil purchases, once again infusing geopolitics and international security into his trade war economic policy.

    “India is not only buying massive amounts of Russian Oil, they are then, for much of the Oil purchased, selling it on the Open Market for big profits,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “They don’t care how many people in Ukraine are being killed by the Russian War Machine. Because of this, I will be substantially raising the Tariff paid by India to the USA. Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/04/trump-india-tariffs-russia-00491853
     
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  3. ROCKSS

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    paper tiger trump won't do a dam thing to putin..............................trump is putin`s little B

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  4. Xerobull

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    That's so real? Is it AI generated?
     
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    What kind of blackmail does Putin have on Trump? It must be huge! Nothing else makes sense for him to bend over backwards to appease Putin the way he has for years!!! He"s punishing a select few of those buying Russian oil, but stalling and stalling in slapping sanctions on Russia and condemning Putin. It's just like this crap with Maxwell. Where's his outrage for the sick stuff she did. Where's the outrage against the recruiter and groomer, and her huge part in sex trafficking so many you girls? Again, the only thing that makes sense is that she has some dirt on him he never wants revealed. After all, they were thick as thieves back in the day.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Another egghead
     
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    Hes such a embarrassing sack of ****. What a utter embarrassment of what's become of America
     
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  9. ROCKSS

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    What an egghead, 2 weeks ago he was all mad at putin and was gonna give him 50 days, then made it 10 and now is about to give away Ukraine because Putin will play trump like a fiddle.......................trump is simply a paper tiger when it comes to going up against a REAL dictator

    Having trump in this promises one thing, there will be a BIG headline followed by crickets and more bloodshed OR trump will say that Ukraine doesn't want to give up half the country to russia, and they have no cards and says were done helping them, again giving in to whatever putin wants..................The mini king is all hat and no cattle
     
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    @Nook allowing Moscow access to resources in Alaska.

    I've seen it all now
     
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  11. deb4rockets

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    I know he wont, but trump should walk in and start off with a cease fire demand, that's the starting point and if we cant agree to that were not talking about anything else. Putin is going to play him like a fiddle, stroke the massive ego, promise all kinds of things.....................hell, looks like were going in with "deals" like Alaska Mineral Rights

    For real, he could make this stop but he has ZERO diplomatic experience and he is going up against a KGB operative who is going to clean his clock
     
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  13. HTM

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    I thought the leftists position was that Trump was a Russian asset or an ally of Russia?

    Why would Putin need to clean Trumps clock? Why isn't Trump just simply abandoning Ukraine, lifting sanctions on Russia and redirecting military support to Russia?

    Odd.
     
  14. Deckard

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    I hope Ukraine actually gets the munitions and in the quantities written about below, purchased by Ukraine. Based on trump's history, I'll believe it when/if it happens. What I don't understand is why Ukraine continues to have these "restrictions" placed by the United States on their use.

    Putin has his military deliberately striking civilians with bombs, missiles, and drones every day and night, including hospitals, pediatric hospitals, apartment buildings, schools - yet Ukraine isn't free to strike military targets anywhere in Russia, not with weapons from the United States, without pre-approval from the USA (and Ukraine has no interest in attacking civilians).

    Why? The Europeans don't have the same restrictions, not any longer, to my knowledge. Yes, Ukraine can and does use Ukrainian weapons to attack Russian military targets, yet it's the equivalent of fighting with one hand tied behind your back. Again, why? The restrictions are a huge benefit to Russia's military.


    Ukraine Will Receive First Of Thousands Of New U.S. Made Standoff Missiles In The Coming Weeks

    Intended to be relatively cheap and quick to produce, the Pentagon’s Extended Range Attack Munition will give Ukraine a major standoff strike boost.
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    Aug 25, 2025 2:40 PM EDT

    Washington has approved the transfer of thousands of Extended Range Attack Munitions (ERAM) to Ukraine, which will provide the country with a powerful new and relatively low-cost standoff strike capability, it has been reported. However, it’s unclear whether Kyiv will be able to use the new weapon to strike targets deep within Russia, with unnamed U.S. officials telling the Wall Street Journal that such targets are off-limits, at least for the U.S.-donated Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS).

    According to the WSJ, the Trump administration last week approved the sale of 3,350 ERAM missiles to Ukraine. The weapons, which have a range between 150-280 miles and are stated to be air-launched, at least initially, should start to arrive in around six weeks. “Several” unnamed U.S. officials told the same publication that ERAM use would require prior approval from the Pentagon, due to the fact that it could strike targets relatively deep within Russia.

    (much more at the link below)
    https://www.twz.com/air/ukraine-wil...-s-made-standoff-missiles-in-the-coming-weeks
     
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    https://san.com/cc/while-us-restricts-long-range-missile-use-ukraine-builds-its-own/

    Related - Trump and Hesgeth on the down low months ago reinstated a blanket ban on ATACAMS strikes inside Russia, also effectively neutering Storm Shadow by restricting targeting info, essentially cutting off Ukraine from all their precision long range weapons systems for attacking Russia deep inside Russia.

    Ukraine is having to rely on their own domestic Shaheed analogs instead.

    So Ukraine may get these nice new weapons, but Orange Man and the drunken misogynist won't let them actually use them to attack Russia.
     
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    putin played the orange man like a fiddle.......................what a paper lion we have as Prez.

    Now were back to the old "2 weeks" BS..............first it was 50 days, then 10 days, mean tweets, then roll out the red carpet for the murderer and then have a meeting with Europe and then the puppeteer says, "not so fast my friends"...........................trump is all talk
     
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    French calling Trump a b**** lmao. Its just so funny how his cultists think hes some strong man while the world laughs at him
     
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