The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

You are doing this thing again. This tactic to help support Trump at any cost. Divert, deflect, blah blah. So lazy, and tired.

People are not bringing up the Intel takeover as a way to make a case that this is the definition of Socialism that cannot be argued against under any pretense. (even though... .OF COURSE it sure as LOOKS like exactly the same thing people are fearful of when they talk about socialism and communism under the right wing propaganda talking point cloud of influence).

We are making a point that people that drink the same cool aid propaganda that you traffic in and spew out with a firehose would be losing their everloving minds if the Biden admin ever did something like this, and the cult you are an activist for always when they had nothing else would just yell about about Kamala or Biden or Obama were Socialists AND Communists.

We aren't debating the merits of this case. We are debating YOU, and pointing out how the MAGA cult you are an online activist for.... is full of sh$t.

 

Have you ever thought maybe the writer is pushing this bcz he wants dems to copy Trumps action? Have some dignity for once in your life. The US government is the largest shareholder of Intel. That's the definition of communism.

Now we have foreign corporations trying to leverage Trumps relationship with INTEL which puts other corporations at a disadvantage



The government has no business owning any company cuz it distorts the free market

He does this **** in every thread. It's so exhausting

 

It's okay, he's a self-proclaimed moderate Democrat...

 

Beijer's full argument:

Former Obama undersecretary of state Rick Stengel is freaking out over news that the Trump administration has taken a 10 percent equity stake in chip manufacturer Intel:

Trump’s strong-arming Intel for gov’t equity is something Mao and Stalin would be proud of. . . . Once, the GOP believed in laissez-faire capitalism and government not interfering in the private sector. Look it up: the state owning the means of production is called Marxism.
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Anyone old enough to remember the phrase “Government Motors” should be able to appreciate what a wild line of criticism this is to hear from a former Obama official. As part of his Troubled Asset Relief Program, Barack Obama took for the US government a 61 percent equity stake in General Motors — and the Right’s backlash was entirely predictable. Rush Limbaugh called this “a sterling example of the Left’s crusade for government control of business” that proved “the Left’s enchantment with socialism.” John Stossel complained that this was a “move towards more government control of the economy. . . . And, in the end, that’s pretty close to socialism.”

That so many liberals have adopted this line of criticism — Joe Scarborough took it up on Thursday and Democratic consultant Jessica Tarlov ran with it on Friday, for example — should probably provoke some reflection among socialists who think of liberals as fellow travelers. While socialists may share certain egalitarian values and other priorities with contemporary Democrats, American liberals are still reflexively ambivalent-to-hostile toward the basic socialist agenda of nationalization. They will opportunistically support it when it is time for Democrats to bail out the economy, but then they will aggressively attack it if they think this will score points against Republicans. There are few things that contemporary liberals enjoy more than “catching” a Republican doing something that they can, rightly or wrongly, construe as socialist.

In this case, I would say wrongly. Stengel’s definition of Marxism as “state ownership of the means of production” is confused for all kinds of reasons, but here the most salient is that ownership does not imply control. Even if this was ordinary equity, 10 percent would hardly give the government any kind of significant control over the company. But as Intel made clear in a statement, this deal doesn’t even give the government 10 percent control:

The government’s investment in Intel will be a passive ownership, with no Board representation or other governance or information rights. The government also agrees to vote with the Company’s Board of Directors on matters requiring shareholder approval, with limited exceptions.
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This notion of “passive ownership” perfectly illustrates why socialists would do well to talk about control rather than ownership of the means of production. A major function of modern finance is to sever the relationship between the two. To identify control, you have to look past the legal and business terminology and figure out who actually has the final say over any given lot of capital.

In that light, it isn’t clear that a 10 percent ownership stake even represents incremental progress toward control of Intel. Convincing a business to give you a 10 percent nonvoting stake in their company is a very different thing from getting a 10 percent voting stake, let alone a 51 percent voting stake.

Nevertheless, American partisans clearly aren’t interested in litigating the fine details between ownership and control — and that’s why socialists have an interest in this fight. If Democrats are going to try to vilify Donald Trump as a socialist, the best response is to complain that he isn’t even doing socialism.​

 

I think we just need to call a spade a spade. It's obvious this is not someone acting as a real person seeking to have conversations, and dialog. This is a level of dedication, and discipline that you really only see with someone with a claim at stake. If he's not literally employed by a MAGA propaganda outlet he probably should be so he can get paid for his contribution to the Trump campaign.

 

It's sadly funny that much of this admin look like movie villains (in an unironic way)....

Stephen Miller looks completely natural in that outfit.

 

unlocked article link

Trump Wins Bernie Sanders Endorsement
Will the U.S. semiconductor industry survive federal intervention?

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-w...4?st=TcYP5X&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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What the **** is this? The effeminate Thunder Cat that was dropped on a rock when his pops realized he wasn't okay?

 

It is true - native protectionism causes some strange bed fellows.

No one can claim that Trump never goes off script.

 

same on you, OT, for parroting this convenient gaslighting

 

Trump seeks to fire Fed governor Lisa Cook

President Trump moved to fire Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook Monday, escalating his campaign to exert more control over the central bank.

In a social media post, Trump said he was dismissing Cook in response to allegations from a Trump ally that she had made false statements on a mortgage application.

Under federal law designed to insulate the central bank from political pressure, Fed governors can only be removed for cause. Trump said he had determined there was sufficient cause to fire Cook.

"The American people must be able to have full confidence in the honesty of the members entrusted with setting policy and overseeing the Federal Reserve," Trump wrote in a letter addressed to Cook. "In light of your deceitful and potentially criminal conduct in a financial matter, they cannot and I do not have such confidence in your integrity."

Earlier this month, Bill Pulte, a Trump loyalist who oversees the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, accused Cook of mortgage fraud, citing two home loans she obtained weeks apart in 2021, before joining the Federal Reserve. The two properties were in Michigan and Georgia. Pulte said Cook had represented that each property would be used as her primary residence — a declaration that often results in more favorable loan terms.

Cook has not replied in detail to the allegations, saying she is gathering information, but she insisted last week she would not be "bullied." The Fed did not immediately respond to request for comment after Trump's post Monday night.

The effort to fire Cook comes in the midst of a high-pressure campaign by Trump and his allies to get the central bank to lower interest rates. Trump already has an opportunity to appoint one new member to the Fed's governing board, after the surprise resignation of Adriana Kugler earlier this month. Kugler ended her term a few months early to return to teaching at Georgetown.

If Trump succeeds in ousting Cook, that would create another vacancy, potentially giving Trump appointees a majority on the seven-member board.

The firing could invite a legal challenge, since the Fed is designed to operate independently of the White House.

"The illegal attempt to fire Lisa Cook is the latest example of a desperate President searching for a scapegoat to cover for his own failure to lower costs for Americans," said Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the top Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee, which oversees the Fed. "It's an authoritarian power grab that blatantly violates the Federal Reserve Act, and must be overturned in court."

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-5517335/trump-federal-reserve-governor-lisa-cook


"The Federal Reserve is a uniquely structured, quasi-private entity that follows in the distinct historical tradition of the First and Second Banks of the United States."

Time to **** or get off the pot USSC...

 

No evidence of mortgage fraud or anything but his ass lickers wont care. Its a pattern



Banana republic

 

Let's touch the hottest stove

 

It appears Cook broke the law and if so she should be fired. That is all.

 

He's surrounded himself with people to help him carry out the agenda 77 million people voted for. Unlike the people he put in place in 2020, he learned from his mistakes and didn't repeat them.

 

He can't do this.

 

It appears you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. That is all.

 

Great response, you're a deep thinker

She's been accused of mortgage fraud,

Which is ironic since that's what they tried to put Trump in jail for doing.

It appears that James/Cook/Schiff were throwing stones in glass houses.

 

You're on here 24/7 simping for Trump, not trying to have a civil or reasonable conversation with someone on that level. Now ****off...