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Trump Orders National Guard Into Washington, Takes Over D.C. Police

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  1. raining threes

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    Is Trump trying to have less killing on the streets?

    Is Trump trying to have less killing in Gaza/Ukraine?

    Are the libs against everything Trump's trying to do?
     
  2. raining threes

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    I love what Trump's doing. I'm fine with smashing things. Over the last 20 years they've tried to solve these issues by doing things the way the libs want crime stopped. It hasn't worked. So smashing as you call it or doing whatever it takes to fix the issues as soon as possible is what I'm totally on board with.
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    You just don't get it. You fall for the fear mongering and lies, no matter what the story he twists becomes.

    Trump's BS for declarations to justify a "public safety emergency" to deploy National Guard troops is nothing but theatrics and lies.

    These type comments are simply fear mongering in a city where violent crime is at a 30 year low.

    "It's becoming a situation of complete and total lawlessness."

    "I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam and squalor and worse."

    "This is liberation day in DC, and we're going to take our capital back," he said.

    Trump said Washington DC had been "taken over by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals" as well as "drugged out maniacs and homeless people".

    Then you have his two lying brown shirts continuing the fear mongering...

    “You hear these people out here screaming ‘Free D.C.,” Vance said. “Let’s free D.C. from lawlessness. Let’s free Washington, D.C., from one of the highest murder rates in the entire world. Let’s free Washington, D.C., so that young families can walk around and feel safe and secure. That’s what we’re trying to free D.C. from.”

    The hysteria from their mouths is completely unhinged, manipulative, and deceitful.

    Here's the facts:

    D.C.’s violent crime rate in 2024 was the second-lowest rate reported to the FBI since 1966.

    Taking murder rates alone, we’ve seen impressive improvement across our nation, beyond Washington, D.C. The FBI released data on crime in the United States in 2024 last week, showing a nearly 15% drop in murder overall from 2023 to 2024. The preliminary data for 2025 shows an even more promising decline is happening this year.

    The FBI’s crime statistics estimates, based on reported data, show a violent crime occurred, on average, every 25.9 seconds in 2024. The breakdown shows on average a murder occurred every 31.1 minutes and a rape occurred every 4.1 minutes. National violent crime decreased an estimated 4.5% in 2024 compared to 2023 estimates:

    Murder and non-negligent manslaughter recorded a 2024 estimated nationwide decrease of 14.9% compared to the previous year.

    In 2024, the estimated number of offenses in the revised rape category saw an estimated 5.2% decrease.

    Aggravated assault figures decreased an estimated 3.0% in 2024.

    Robbery showed an estimated decrease of 8.9% nationally.

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2024-reported-crimes-in-the-nation-statistics

    I repeat again, D.C.’s violent crime rate in 2024 was the second-lowest rate reported to the FBI since 1966.

    Beyond D.C., Los Angeles reported the fewest murders through June since 1966. New York City has recorded fewer murders through June since 1960. Philadelphia recorded the fewest murders seen in the city since 1969, Baltimore since 1965, Detroit since 1964, and San Francisco had the fewest ever recorded (monthly data available to 1960).

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...-guard-plan-ignores-fbi-crime-data-rcna224290
     
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  4. raining threes

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    I'm totally on board with what he's doing in DC/Gaza/Ukraaine etc.... I dont know about restaurants doing more business, but I'm fairly certain they aren't doing less business and the streets are safer now. Are you against the streets being safer? Because the majority of the citizens in DC are happy with safer streets.

    Grocery prices have stabilized and are somewhat cheaper. It may not be 6 wars but he has stopped wars in Africa. Are you unhappy he stopped the killing there? Nettenyahu will be a war hero if he can remove Hamas from the face of the earth. Or are you pro terrorism?
     
  5. raining threes

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    Ok love these numbers?

    Are the streets safer now in DC than they were a month ago? Of course they are and this is a good thing in my eyes. Obviously you dont care about safety in DC.
     
  6. raining threes

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    She doesn't care about safety or rule of law because TDS has infected her brain. She's literally pro crime in DC.
     
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  7. tinman

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    Breh they’re all pro crime
    And pro Hamas

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  8. deb4rockets

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    What is your deal? Stop lying.

    Like I said, violent crime was lower in DC last year than the past 30 years. That includes Trump's last term. The National average of violent crime was down last year. Yet, you want to believe we are in such a state of emergency because Trump says so, just so he can use Executive orders as usual.

    Yes, he's a fearmonger and liar.

    We obviously are not in a state of emergency if the National average of violent crime is dropping. DC had less violent crime last year than the last time Trump was in office. I guess it means nothing to you that he blatantly lies about everything. You support a pathological liar.

    As for the restaurants, of course Trump lies his ass off as usual. You don't have any idea because you don't fact check his lies. That's sad. He spews lies about everything, but you cry "TDS" to someone smart enough to fact check his words, and think you are smart when you just take his fake facts for truth.

    Trump told reporters Monday, standing beside Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office, that Democrats have been calling him to express gratitude — claiming Washington, D.C. feels safe again,,with busy restaurants and couples finally able to enjoy dinner out in the city for the first time in years.

    “The press says, ‘He’s a dictator, he’s trying to take over.’ No, all I want is security for our people. But people who haven’t gone out to dinner in Washington, D.C., in two years are going out to dinner, and the restaurants the last two days were busier than they’ve been in a long time,” the president said during an Oval Office meeting.

    Blatant Lie!

    Data from OpenTable found that seated diners in Washington last week started to drop dramatically compared to last year, after Trump first announced he was taking federal control of D.C.’s police department and deploying the National Guard in the city, in what the administration has described as an effort to fight crime.

    Beginning Monday, Aug. 11, seated diners at Washington restaurants, according to online reservation numbers, started to drop dramatically in comparison to the prior year, dipping 16 percent. On Wednesday, the number of seated diners at restaurants with reservations fell 31 percent, and Saturday’s drop was 20 percent.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5457982-trump-restaurants-dc-crowded/

    “We are now the only Country in the World that uses Mail-In Voting,” Trump wrote in an Aug. 18 Truth Social post.

    Blatant Lie!

    Data compiled by a Sweden-based organization that advocates for democracy globally found in an October 2024 report found that 34 countries or territories allow mail-in voting, which it refers to as “postal voting.”

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-is-the-only-country-that-uses-mail-in-voting


    But, you keep believing him. That is sad.
    It's even sadder when people need to fact check anything coming out of the President's mouth, because he is a compulsive liar. BTW, he added more debt, prices aren't lower, inflation isn't lower, and tariffs will make things worse. Yet, you will cheer him on, not even knowing when he's lying his ass off.
     
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    alternative hypothesis

    DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics
    Police union says directive to change offense classifications comes from command staff.

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/

    excerpt:

    A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

    The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

    The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.
    more at the link
     
  10. ThatBoyNick

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    I haven't followed this situation much and don't know about the details, but this post reminded me of the conversation on El Salvador not too long ago.

    You can always try to trade liberty and freedom for more security. The question is how much, what's the balance, what are the long term implications.


    We could do a lot for safety with gun bans. A lot of people would say, obviously the pro gun groups in the country don't care about safety, or school shooting victims, etc.
     
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  11. raining threes

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    Lives saved, can you give me that number? Like I've said before I love what Trump's doing and I'm especially happy seeing libs freakout about what he's doing.
     
  12. raining threes

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    Difference is what he's doing is all being done lawfully.
     
  13. deb4rockets

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    Like I said, you support a pathological liar. What you call freaking out is people speaking facts you refuse to accept. There was no national emergency.
     
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    Exaggerations yes, everything is the biggest/best most beautiful in Trumps world. He's a developer/salesman by trade. Pathological liar nope.

    Freaking out is being for wars/killing in the streets/open borders essentially anything Trump's for your against. I like most of his policies. I mean y'all are for racism against Jews/Pro Hamas/Rioting in the streets/crooked stuff by James/Schiff etc... but indict Trump when bankers said they would do the same loans again if given the chance etc.... Yeah, Mar Lago is worth 11 mil.

    Where's Cheney/Nancy/Swallowell's records of Jan 6th. Speaking of pathological liars, tell me more about Obama's if you want to keep your doctor you can keep your doctor lie? Obamacare will lower insurance costs etc... Those lies have impacted blue collar Americans lives more than any exaggreation Trump may or may not have made.

    Like I said I'm getting great joy out of watching the libs freakout and root for a stock market crash. Tariffs causing people to go hungry etc.... when so far the left and their media cohorts have been wrong about most things Trump. What I like most about the Trump administration now is the people in his cabinet and the fact that they're trying to get to the bottom of the corruption by Comey/Brennan/Clapper/Cheney etc... Obama and Susan Rice were behind most of the corruption IMHO, unfortunately they will never spend a day in jail although they should.
     
  15. tinman

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    @Salvy
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    lol
    Breh you talking to one of them ghoul NPCs on fallout 4 breh

    DC now
    She points out 49% of the locals are black but all the protestors are old woke whitey
    @pgabriel
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    I sincerely dont know why you waste time with him. Hes a 65 year old white boomer who blamed immigrants for his son not finding a job lmao. You cant get to someone whos as brainwashed as him.

    Imagine blaming immigrants for your son not funding a job lmao. RW boomers are the worst demographic in America
     
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    Trump whos openly selling pardons to the highest bidder cares about corruption lmao. Trump has sold multiple pardons for million dollars donations is going to fight corruption



    @deb4rockets ask the MAGA cultist if hes okay with his cult leader selling pardons
     
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  18. deb4rockets

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    Pathological liar. Yes. It's an every day thing with him, so it's pathological. He can't stop doing it.

    1. Extremely manipulative with his lies? Yes
    3. Spews dangerously harmful lies? Yes
    4. Spews lies to deceive Americans? Yes
    5. Spews lies to shift the blame on others? Yes

    Trustworthy? Absolutely not.
    A National Security risk? Absolutely

    Exaggerating? :p That too. Always bragging, making stuff up, exaggerating stuff, and tooting his clown horn.

    Salesman? Yep. A Snake oil salesman in a suit.


    What the hell are you saying? Are you talking to me? If so, you need to stop right there. That crap really pisses me off.

    You know damn well I do not support crime. None of it. White collar or blue collar crimes. I don't pick and choose like some people.

    You know damn well I don't support violence, hate, or racism of any kind. None of it! Never!

    You crossed the line there, spewing flat out lies about what I stand for. I'm done discussing anything on this forum with you.
     
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  19. El_Conquistador

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    Trump's approach is working -- plain and simple.

    DAVID MARCUS: DC just had a murder-free week, and yes, Dems, Trump did that

    Violent crime in the capital drops 22% in first week of Trump federal police control implementation

    As the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the Trump administration’s takeover of the Washington DC police force begins to fade, the results are coming in, and they are nothing short of extraordinary.

    As of Wednesday afternoon, the nation’s capital has had no murders for seven days, something that had not been achieved since March and something I can find no recent record of in summer months when the murder rate is typically at its highest.

    HUNDREDS ARRESTED AS TRUMP’S WASHINGTON, DC, CRIME CRACKDOWN HITS FULL STRIDE

    Last Monday, when a man was tragically gunned down in Logan Circle just hours after the Trump takeover, Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., took to social media to say that "Trump owns this. No word if the congressman agrees Trump also owns the lives saved this past week.

    And it's not just murder, according to the local police union. Robbery dropped 46% in the week after the takeover, carjackings were down a whopping 83%, and violent crime down 22%. Who could possibly argue against that?


    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-marcus-dc-just-had-murder-free-week-yes-dems-trump-did
     
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  20. deb4rockets

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    I'm not anymore. He crossed the line into falsely accusing me of supporting things he knows I am strongly against.
     
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