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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. Nook

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    I don't think so - Israel would align with someone else at this point. They also are so small and they get a lot of support from Jews across the world. The situation is different by this point. I am sure they would severely feel it - but they are not going to pack their bags and leave like the South African white establishment did. There is a religious and cultural element at play and at this point there are enough rich and powerful people that would help them.
     
  2. lionaire

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    I still don't agree that it would be as simple as you're making it seem. After the recent back and forth with Iran, they were depleted of a majority of their supply, especially the missiles utilized by their iron dome/arrow defense systems which is the exact reason why they pushed for a ceasefire. (Side note: A whopping 14% of our very own THAAD missiles were drained in that exchange which is a staggering amount considering the time and cost it takes for us to produce those. This was an alarming exposal of our own military supply chain issues.)

    If it's not America or Germany, next up would be China or Russia. China has no incentive to provide such thing since doing so presents a threat to Iran who is one of their major oil suppliers. Considering China's long standing foreign policy of non-intervention, I don't see a reality where they would be inclined to be a primary supplier to a rogue state. Russia has a strategic relationship with Iran as well and providing weapons would create a conflict of interest on that front nor would they be keen on providing assistance to an ally of ours.

    They are nothing without us.
     
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  3. lionaire

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    Plus if America decides to cut them off, all our puppets around the world like Turkey, Egypt and the EU states would fall in line.
     
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  4. kokozo

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    Align with who? Nobody can provide what America currently provides to Israel - like a total immunity for any diplomatic, military or economic problem.
     
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    “We’re talking about thousands of kids who need to be in hospital if they’re going to have a chance of survival,” DeWaal said. “If this approach of increasing the food supply had been undertaken two months ago, probably many of those kids would not have gotten into this situation.”

    Doctors in Gaza acknowledge that some of those dying or starving have chronic conditions, including cerebral palsy, rickets or genetic disorders, some of which make children more vulnerable to malnutrition. However, those conditions are manageable when food and proper medical treatments are available, they say.

    “The worsening shortages of food led to these cases’ swift deterioration,” said Dr. Yasser Abu Ghali, head of Nasser’s pediatrics unit. “Malnutrition was the main factor in their deaths.”

    At his press briefing Sunday, Netanyahu spoke in front of a screen reading “Fake Starving Children” over photos of skeletal children with preexisting conditions. He accused Hamas of starving the remaining Israeli hostages and repeated claims the militant group is diverting large amounts of aid, a claim the U.N. denies.

    https://apnews.com/article/palestin...el-netanyahu-0549e843c24fe7f20f1e7ce085502450


    Netanyahu is a war criminal. Make no mistake about that. Its gross that our President supports a man who has committed such atrocious crimes against humanity. Netanyahu deserves to be locked up in cells along with Hamas terrorists and other war criminals. Too bad they can't all be forced into slow starvation, torture, and fear like the ones they inflict their cruelty on.
     
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  6. lionaire

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    united states of israel

     
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  7. lionaire

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    Hey guys saying "America first" is actually an antisemitic trope now

     
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  9. lionaire

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    "israel says"

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    I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't believe this yet
     
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    Perhaps we need Hamas to weigh in ...If Hamas said it's true @deb4rockets @astros123 and @lionaire would 200 percent believe

    well actually who is the source? :eek::rolleyes:o_O

    The QNN states it is independent and funds itself through advertisements, and that it aims to expose the acts of the Israeli occupation. Nevertheless, it has gained a reputation of being associated with militant groups, and has been described as being affiliated with Hamas.
     
  12. lionaire

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    Google's free. Here's a source I'm assuming you will deem as more trustworthy :D

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/legal...ge-equates-israeli-flag-with-jewish-identity/
     
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  13. lionaire

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    These freaks come to our country, rape children and then are allowed to flee to their pedophile safe haven with no repercussions.

     
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    If this is true then Trump and his war criminal buddy are disgusting, protecting a pedo....

    Officers involved in the operation confirmed that the Trump administration, at Israel’s request, overrode US law enforcement to ensure Alexandrovich’s swift return to Israeli-occupied territories.

    “Despite the Trump administration itself authorizing the sting — Trump’s own team stepped in and blew up their work. They expedited his release and return to [occupied Palestine]. A predator was caught. And then, to protect Netanyahu, he was freed,” the report said.


    The report added that Henderson confirmed to North Star News that Alexandrovich was formally arrested, charged, and still has pending felony charges on the books.

    “This is not speculation. This is not rumor. This is fact. And yet Israel has paraded him back to Tel Aviv as if nothing happened,” the report highlighted.

    Alexandrovich had traveled to Las Vegas as a private individual for the Black Hat Briefings, a yearly meeting of cybersecurity professionals.

    The officers involved in the operation also confirmed that he did not have a diplomatic visa or diplomatic immunity.

    Netanyahu’s Office released a statement after the incident claiming “a state employee who traveled to the US for professional matters was questioned by American authorities during his stay … the employee was not arrested and returned to [occupied territories] as scheduled.”

    Israeli outlet Ynet claimed that Alexandrovich was never arrested, only “briefly questioned” before returning to his hotel and flying home.

    As one of Netanyahu’s top cyberwarfare officials, Alexandrovich has deep access to Israel’s cyber secrets and classified partnerships with foreign powers.

    He is the founder of Israel’s multi-million-dollar “Cyber Dome” initiative as well. The program is reportedly equipped with AI to detect, neutralize, and repel cyber threats before they reach critical systems.

    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/08/17/753255/Trump-admin--helped-Netanyahu’s-cyber-chief-go-free-after-his-arrest-for-child-sex-crimes--Report
     
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  16. lionaire

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    Wow I shouldn't expect any less from the pro-pedo party but it's utterly ridiculous how israeli officials are legally bulletproof in this country.
     
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  17. lionaire

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    More footage from what appears to be one of the largest demonstrations so far

     
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    Unhinged
     
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  19. deb4rockets

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    If Hamas terrorists said that then Trump would call it evil, rightfully so. But, when Israel says it he doesn't. Trump is a hypocrite. He's funding and supporting war criminals.
     
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    In a letter addressed to Christian leaders worldwide, the Committee points to Israel’s August 6, 2025 decision to freeze all bank accounts of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem and impose new taxes on its properties — moves that have blocked salaries for clergy, teachers, and staff. The Committee described the move as “an unprecedented assault on the churches of the Holy Land, [and] a direct attack on the Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem.”

    Committee head Ramzi Khouri says these measures “severely threaten the Church’s ability to provide spiritual, humanitarian, and community services,” calling them a violation of the historic Status Quo and international law.

    The committee also cites Israeli settlement expansion on Orthodox lands near the Monastery of Saint Gerasimus (Deir Hijleh) outside Jericho, warning it is part of a broader plan to “erase Palestine’s Christian and historical identity.”

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    Why are Christians in America still providing full throated support for the actions of the genocidal state? Those who back this genocidal regime have tried so hard to push this narrative that this conflict is a religious struggle between Jews and Muslims but that is objectively false. zionism as an ideology seeks to destroy any and everyone who opposes the establishment of their colonial expansionist ethnostate and that includes Christians as well.

    Less than a month ago, a church site that has existed for 15 centuries in Palestine was set ablaze by israeli settler terrorists. Over the past two years other historic churches that have been have been bombed by the israeli army and several Christian Palestinians seeking refuge from the genocide have been killed in the process. There was even an incident shortly after Operation Al-Aqsa flood took place where a pregnant Christian woman was sniped and killed right outside of the Church they were taking shelter in.

    zionism is a disease that must be eradicated for the sake of humanity.
     

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