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AI ART: Art or Not?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocket River, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    I mean, I’ve been playing music for 30 years. Made like $84 lifetime off of it because people just about categorically refuse to pay for music.

    Unless you want to sing matchbox 20 3 am and hoodie and the blowfish to a bar of drunks.

    I play for myself and I put some of the stuff I made out there for free and people basically don’t even listen twice even though it’s free.
     
  2. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    I can see that
    Several things are true
    1. Napster got people user to not paying for music
    2. Streaming makes music basically free - esp things like youtube
    3. Just so much of it out there . . . . drowned in a sea of music

    I think this will be with other artforms too
    Mona Lisa maybe a Classic but Mona Lisa with blond hair is specific to whoever prompted it . . and everyone can do it
    blah blah blah until you have thousands if not millions (potentially billions . . i.e. put my face onthe mona lisa) of different versions of it

    Human Creativity is about to be pushed to its limits
    AI might be able to produces every possible variation of every thing before we can

    Rocket River
     
  3. Mango

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    People got used to not paying for Music when in their vehicles even before Napster.

    If a radio station went to commercials when a song ended, just punch a preset on the radio for another station to avoid listening to the commercials.
     
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  4. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    Yeah...except now people pay Spotify or Youtube to not hear/see ads instead of paying an artist for their creation directly. Companies paid radio stations based on the theory that a certain number of people were listening. Artists got their royalties. Now Youtube sets marks based on value, gets paid by advertising and people who don't want ads, and give artists next to nothing. And yeah, there's a wash of people contributing now but they also have to participate in a scheme that's devaluing them because of their *potential* exposure. It's bullshit.

    Like I'm not going to judge anyone too harshly over it, for paying against ads, for paying Spotify instead of musicians, but it's bullshit.

    And then like, oh, AI can create music? Big deal. Make your youtube profile and let it try to generate revenue for you lol... I can actually play and nobody valued it. So why should I care if AI can recreate sounds for a platform that completely devalues it as well?

    To bring it back around to the point of the thread - the problem isn't AI can create music causing a devaluation of musicians. People did that tihs a whiiiiiile ago.
     

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