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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

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  1. Rocket River

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    Intriguing

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  2. AleksandarN

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    You and @Space Ghost belong together in this low level trolling attempt. At least be smart about it
     
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  3. basso

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    Grok Prompt:
    can the House Sergeant-at-Arms ask the national guard for assistance in a crisis?

    Yes, the House Sergeant-at-Arms can request assistance from the National Guard in a crisis, but the process involves specific protocols and limitations: -

    **Authority and Coordination**: The House Sergeant-at-Arms, as the chief law enforcement officer for the House of Representatives, is responsible for maintaining security within the House wing of the U.S. Capitol and other House facilities. In a crisis threatening the Capitol, the Sergeant-at-Arms can initiate requests for additional security support, including from the National Guard. However, this typically requires coordination with the Capitol Police Board, which includes the Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, and the Architect of the Capitol (non-voting). -

    **Process for Requesting National Guard**: The House Sergeant-at-Arms does not have unilateral authority to deploy the National Guard. The request must generally be approved by the Capitol Police Board or higher authorities, such as the Speaker of the House or the Secretary of Defense, depending on the situation. The National Guard, as a federal and state military force, operates under the command of the state governor (for D.C., the D.C. National Guard is under federal control via the President or their designee, typically the Secretary of the Army). -

    **Historical Precedent**: During the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, Paul Irving at the time, was involved in discussions with Capitol Police and other officials about requesting National Guard assistance. However, delays occurred due to the need for approval from multiple entities, including the Capitol Police Board and the Department of Defense. Ultimately, the D.C. National Guard was deployed after authorization from acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, following coordination with congressional leadership. -

    **Emergency Protocols**: In extreme emergencies, the House Sergeant-at-Arms can take immediate action to secure the Capitol, such as locking down the House chamber or evacuating members, and may request National Guard support through established channels. The D.C. National Guard’s Quick Reaction Force, for instance, can be mobilized rapidly for Capitol security, but this requires approval from the Pentagon or D.C. authorities. -

    **Limitations**: The Sergeant-at-Arms cannot directly order National Guard deployment without higher-level approval, as the Guard operates outside the Capitol Police’s chain of command. Additionally, any request would need to align with legal frameworks, such as the Posse Comitatus Act, which limits military involvement in domestic law enforcement unless authorized by specific statutes or executive action.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    lol. Imagine deferring to Autism Mom over Capital Police Chief Sund
     
  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Yeah, but whatever, right? It doesn't matter now. We're plugging holes in the cracking dam, with no luxury of a lessons learned session revolving around **** 4.5 years ago.

    This is how they distract you.

    The enemy is at the gates.

    Focus.
     
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  7. JuanValdez

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    I think there is another dimension that Sund and Pelosi both are not saying aloud. The Sergeant at Arms said he didn't want the optics of a militarized Capitol. But, if the National Guard had been deployed ahead of time, there was a risk that Trump could use them to physically control the area and assist in a coup. I remember I had considered it a possibility before the riots. It fits Trump's MO too -- create a circumstance in which Congress has to either ask for soldiers under Trump's control or else face mobs under Trump's control. I think they chose wisely to keep National Guard away ahead of time.

    Grok got this wrong. The Capitol Police Board at that time consisted of Paul Irving, House Sergeant-at-Arms, Michael Stenger, Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, Brett Blanton, Architect of the Capitol, and Steven Sund, Chief of Capitol Police. The Speaker and the Senate Majority Leader are not on the board.
     
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  8. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Jan 6th was fake. Shiithead liberals are stupid for a reason. You losers have tried so many things and nothing sticks. Take my advice and quit before you’ll get boot in your hiney.
     

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