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What are the chances that Altuve does not become a first ballot Hall of Famer

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by what, Oct 22, 2023.

  1. Radricky

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    His numbers are pretty strong when compared to other switch hitters though.
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Pretty amazing since he doesn't have much natural power and he's a pretty crappy baserunner. His career has been pretty much amazing considering he's really is only a 1.5 tool player. Full hit and he was somewhat quick when he was young.
     
  3. ROCKSS

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    I love the guy but dam he makes so bone headed plays on the base paths
     
  4. juicystream

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    Hitting is just one part of baseball. Bagwell was miles ahead of Berkman in baserunning and defense.

    I wish Berkman was a HOFer. If he had half of Bagwell's effort, he would have been, but he didn't put forth enough effort in terms of conditioning. Berkman was my favorite hitter to watch. It looked so effortless.
     
  5. Tomstro

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    2 or 3 more peak years and Berkman gets in. Very similar OPS for their careers. Defensively, Bagwell was definitely a better defensive first baseman. They would never put Bags in CF though.

    Once again, this isn’t about who was better between the 2 players. Everyone knows Bagwell was better. Not at all the point though
     
  6. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
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    The elite northeastern media asswipes will make him wait but he'll get in. Whether its first ballot or not whatever. Now, if he continues to do what he's doing now for the next 5 years......
     
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  7. Hey Now!

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    a) the bias of the northeastern region of the BBWAA is way overblown; b) I think there will be initial pushback, and it's not going to be exclusively from east coast writers. He's booed in *every* stadium.

    I will be shocked if he goes in on his first few ballots. But the general consensus is turning on him, and he's been so good, post-scandal, that I think he's going to get in eventually. But I don't think it'll be quick.
     
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    I don't think it really matters. Ask Billy if he feels less like a hall of famer.
     
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    I heard his next double is significant too. 450
     
  11. IdStrosfan

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    I think once ( if?) Beltran gets in, any excuse to keep Altuve out for the scandal goes away.

    It will also reduce those who want to penalize him the 1st year but consider him a H.O.F.
     

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