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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Strawberry Gum

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    It had its defensive reasons, too. We were one of the best defenses in the league before double big. After double big we were the absolute best defense in the league. Those line-ups were nightmare level for opposing offenses. If I'm not mistaken defensive rating was 80 something when Adams and Sengun were both on the floor during the play-offs.
     
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    Fair enough, I just never recall any narrative about it being due to Sengun's defensive weaknesses at all, especially not from Udoka. I'd still love to see the quote where he apparently attributed it to that though.
     
  3. MrButtocks

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    Sengun is not yet on the Shaq or Dream tier where everyone else on the roster is there to complement him. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that Sengun or Amen hurt our floor spacing last season, even if they're among our best players and prospects. We can build around their weaknesses, we don't need to bury our heads in the sand and pretend they don't exist.

    I like Sengun, Amen, and Adams a lot and it can be argued that none of them are expected to shoot. But they were on the court together a lot in the second half of the season and it caused some spacing issues. Seems unfair to blame it on the other two guys in the lineup.
     
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    well whoever takes the most jumpshots is naturally expected to make their jumpshots at a consistent above average rate
     
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    I think in the context of a team with no primary scorer and several non-shooters it would be hard to expect anyone to shoot at an above average rate. It depends on whether the offense can create quality looks, no? I can't find the stats right now on NBA homepage, but they used to have a page that showed the percentages for players when guarded vs open. It would surprise me if shooters got more open looks with the Amen/Sengun/Adams lineup than without.

    Extreme example, but the in the 16-17 season OKC's starting lineup was Westbrook, Oladipo, Roberson, Sabonis, and Adams. Three non-shooters and an average one at best in Oladipo. Westbrook took the most threes for OKC that year. Would you naturally expect him to hit at an above average rate with that lineup?
     
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    that's why OKC got rid of all of the and finally won the chip with SGA who was an ultra efficient scorer

    same with Rockets they got rid of Jalen for KD

    so now most perimeter shots by KD then FVV and Jabari

    and lets see Alpis and Amens jumpers's improvement
     
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  7. Hemingway

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    Double big with 2 slow-footed guys will never be a big thing in the modern NBA. It will be used situationally and with Durant now on our team and with Amen’s offensive skillset surging, I doubt it will be utilized very much this year. We were such a poor shooting team last year that the only way we could be even an average offense was due to offensive rebounding at an all-time level. Now that we substituted a 60+ TS% guy for a 40ish guy we won’t be nearly as dependent on a short-term gimmick.
     
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    Durant is a near 7 footer himself therefore no need to field 3 bigs at all times.

     
  9. Joe Joe

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    On this, I just don't know. I didn't expect it to work, but it worked. I don't expect it to be used much with Durant on the floor, but it would not surprise me to see the double big lineup be used for 10 mpg (granted it could be less too). I don't think the double big lineup will be easy to prepare for during the regular season such that the Rockets will use it as long as it works. With Durant, I think other teams will not have time to focus on stopping the double big as slowing Durant will likely take most of their prep time.
     
  10. Hemingway

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    I’m not certain either and Capella adds another factor to the equation. I’m hoping Ime becomes much more creative this year on the offensive side of the ball and doesn’t go way overboard with Iso ball and relying on offensive rebounding, but if it works it works. People also need to remember that Adam’s availability will be a factor.
     
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    His annual summer interview in Turkey’s leading nba podcast will be aired this Sunday. There should be decent content in that interview.
     
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    That's a great tip, thanks for letting us know.
     
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    yeah sure, I get my yearly update on best nightclubs and beach clubs.better than any influencers out there.
     
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    I was actually being sincere tbh, probably rare for the forum but I don't speak Turkish so I would never have known and it's something to look forward to at the dullest time of the year for basketball fans when even the Youtube podcasts aren't doing anything.
     
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    I know you were sincere. I was mocking the Sengun is lazy etc. crowd. I wasn’t too explicit on that, sorry.
     
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    Oh I get it now, that's partially on me misreading the tone as well to be fair. I guess I didn't consider that perspective (possibly because I'm not crazy and I've seen Alpi's competitive fire for years so have absolutely no worries on that front haha.)
     
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    Let those poor souls be. They bet their horse on Jalen's athleticism and were cheering for Bruno to take the starting spot for the lob threat. After a couple years of Sil@ss we got a real coach and their dreams were dashed. They saw Alpi become an all-star and Jalen get kicked to the curb. All they have left is trying to troll as they can't even claim Sengun is a bad basketball player anymore so they make up things to mock the second best player on the team after KD. Let them be, don't kick them while they are down. Mocking is all they have left.
     
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    They also hoped and claimed that udoka won’t like Sengun because he is a defensive liability.
     
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    Close but no cigar, OKC shot the worst percentages in last season's Playoffs. Jaydub's wrist was torn, Chet was not 100% top shape.

    It was a defensive miracle.

    Goodness gracious, they got dudes like Caruso, Dort, Wiggins and Hartenstein stepping up big time.
     

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