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[BOMBSHELL] "Russian Collusion" - Democrats knew it was a lie from the start

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 23, 2025.

  1. krosfyah

    krosfyah Member

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    Having a MANDATE does not mean you steamroll the minority. The will of the people means all the people. The founding fathers were extremely concerned about this very point.


    “All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.”
    — Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, 1801
     
  2. Os Trigonum

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  3. krosfyah

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    The title is literally propaganda.

    Discussing the merits of this topic is a distraction, a very intentional distraction.

    As the old joke goes, other than that Ms. Lincoln, how was the play?
     
  4. basso

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    the truth shall set you free.
     
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    Know what nvm, none of this worth it.
     
  7. krosfyah

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    That's a well reasoned comeback. I'm convinced.
     
  8. krosfyah

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    I know. As the other thread stated, they voted for this. I've talked to a number of conservatives that have expressed some doubt. Well, now it may be too late.
     
  9. basso

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    we're six months in.
     
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    This shouldn't be swept under the rug.
     
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  11. krosfyah

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    Conceptually, I agree. But the stakes are much higher now than just the Russian collusion issue. Spending time on this issue is like the little Dutch boy plugging holes in a damn with his finger. The whole wall is about to collapse. Trump is consolidating power so he can run for a 3rd term.
     
  12. krosfyah

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    Literally every conservative I spoke with, face to face, have acknowledged that this isn't what they voted for. They expressed some grievance, either explicitly or implicitly. I'm not a pollster so take it with a grain of salt but I think more than a few people are having buyers remorse.

    This version is Trump is nothing like the last one. This is Trump 2.0. He must be stopped before he gets to Trump 3.0.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    And here is a little yummy snack to enjoy while we wait on more Russian collusion hoax prosecution updates... Yet another dishonest Democrat. I'm seeing a pattern!

     
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  14. raining threes

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    LMAO, way to explain away for people like Obama, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Comey committing treason.

    Also there's nothing illegal about Trump getting the people he wants in place to carry out the agenda 77 million people voted for him to carry out.
     
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    Schiff, James etc ... Doing exactly what they accused Trump of doing.

    It's like the spouse that accuses the other spouse of cheating is usually the spouse doing the cheating.
     
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  16. krosfyah

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    Ah, your a conservative.

    The issue isn't Russia.
    The issue isn't that the GOP won the presidency and has a mandate
    The issues isn't that the GOP controls the legislative branch
    The issue isn't that the GOP controls the judiciary
    The issue isn't that Trump is carrying out his agenda

    As our founding fathers said, here is the issue:

    “The tendency of a republican government is to an aggrandizement of the executive power till it terminates in a monarchy.”
    Alexander Hamilton, June 18, 1787, Constitutional Convention

    If you are a true American that believes in upholding the values of the US Constitution, you too should be worried ...as a conservative.

    This Russia "investigation" is distraction. Let it go. Only one person involved in the Russia investigation represents a current threat to America. Trump.
     
  17. basso

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    how many "conservatives" have you spoken with?
     
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    Speaking of bombshells...there are tapes.

    Analysis: Tapes, transcripts, subpoenas, and legal twists: Trump’s Epstein storm deepens again

    Lordy, there are tapes.

    In the latest turn of the immortal scandal over Jeffrey Epstein, CNN first reported Tuesday that Donald Trump’s administration has recorded conversations with Epstein’s convicted sex trafficker accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell and is working on a transcript, which it may even release.

    The revelation about Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche’s conversations with Maxwell last month is certain to renew demands for transparency from sectors of the president’s base that first whipped the Epstein storm into overdrive.

    And it comes as senior administration officials plan to meet at Vice President JD Vance’s residence for dinner Wednesday to discuss how to better handle the Epstein case, CNN’s team reported.

    Taking a step back, it’s an extraordinary use of an administration’s power for a top Justice Department official to spend two days talking to someone convicted of grooming, abusing and trafficking young girls for a figure as reviled as Epstein. The idea that officials would then consider releasing an account of the meeting to brazenly help a president escape a political scandal raises ethical, legal and political questions that reflect the unfathomable times in Trump’s second term.

    But it’s hard to see how releasing a transcript of the interview with Maxwell could end up making people less interested in the intrigue — which would be the ostensible purpose of the exercise.

    More likely, such a move would risk repeating the damaging cycle that has plunged the White House ever deeper into a political morass.

    Every time the administration takes a step designed to quell the scandal, all it succeeds in doing is raising expectations and brewing new conspiracy theories among MAGA activists obsessed with the case while widening public exposure to an episode that has blotted out the president’s summer winning streak.

    more at the link
     
  19. raining threes

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    Maybe if the Dems wouldn't put up socialist/communist candidates, are on board with mutilating childrens genetials/DEI crap etc... they could win some elections. You may not like it, but the founding fathers were all on board with letting the voters decide what's best for them.

    As far as the judiciary goes, they are interpreting the constitution, not making things up as they go a long like previous SCOTUS under the guise of the constitution is a living breathing document.

    Gerrymandering, the Dems are getting what they deserve because they gerrymandered districts when they had power. Now that the shoes on the other foot gerrymandering is suddenly a threat to democracy LMAO.
     
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  20. raining threes

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    Dont worry or believe what you're hearing, Trump's not running for a 3rd term.


    I'm for bringing all of the bad actors to light and putting the treasonous bleepers in jail where they belong.
     

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