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[BOMBSHELL] "Russian Collusion" - Democrats knew it was a lie from the start

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 23, 2025.

  1. raining threes

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    Would you be surprised if Comey planted evidence in the Epstein files? I wouldn't be surprised at all after seeing how they fabricated evidence so they could spy on Trump. This doesn't even take into account that they tried to assassinate him twice.
     
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  2. raining threes

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    People care, really citizens on both sides of the isle should care.
     
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    What do you want me to say to this bro?

    Like what actually should I say???

    NOTHING about Trump can ever be bad according to you. Any time there is an accusation against him its because someone is trying to make him look bad.
     
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  5. raining threes

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    Just answer would you be surprised? Even you have to admit that the Deep State has gone to great lengths to get rid of Trump. The fact that they're more than willing to throw the Clintons under the bus to get Trump speaks volumes.

    With this said they should release the files and let the chips fall where they may.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    It has been unusually consistent how the mainstream media and Democrat politicians have made a point to mention Epstein whenever the Russian collusion situation comes up now... and the consistency points to a public relations strategy that is highly coordinated... which points to a political action. We saw the same thing with the Russian collusion media strategy. This coordination suggests to me that there is a good chance that the intel agencies (FBI probably) planted something in the Epstein files. The insurance policy. We've heard that before (Peter Strzok)... and now we know just how crooked and dishonest these agencies behaved under Biden and Obama, NOTHING is beneath them.

    They certainly aren't in a position to get the benefit of the doubt anymore... And obviously they have fabricated "evidence" against Trump already... so would it surprise me if they fabricated Epstein dirt -- not at all.


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  7. krosfyah

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    So what we see is whatever the right is accusing the left of, it's literally the right projecting. It's literally exactly what the right (Trump) is himself doing. Let's play.

    You start off with "mainstream" media ...except the right has Fox News, Alex Jones, etc. The left has nothing like those.

    Epstein is the left's controversy? It's the lefts' fault for bringing it up? What would Fox news be doing if it was a Dem in office? The right would need to start a brand new network to run this coverage 24/7 cause Fox news would run out of airtime discussing this.

    Russian collusion? Nobody in the left is talking about this anymore. If they are, it's only because they are forced to respond to crap that the right keeps bringing up. You just brought it up ...because the Repubs held had a press release about it. This is literally a talking point of the right. The left gave up on this years ago.

    FBI Coordination: Even if you believed it to be true at the time, the right is openly engaging in coordination now. Fire anybody that was appointed by the left and install faithful servants. If it's coordination that you are concerned about, it has never been more coordinated than it is now.

    Benefit of the doubt? This is something that Trump NEVER offers. He has never offered anybody benefit of the doubt. The moment something happens to his disliking, he fires people. If Trump himself doesn't give benefit of the doubt, why would you expect it in return?

    Fabricated evidence? Trump literally took a sharpie to a weather map ...in full public view. ...and then threatened to fire anybody that disputed that.

    It's like the boyfriend who is super jealous of his girlfriend, but he's the one who's actually cheating on her ...and then he feels justified of his cheating cause she's cheating too (but she isn't). He can see her transgressions soooo clearly but he's just looking in a mirror at himself.
     
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  8. krosfyah

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    Dems care but have moved on. They tried to do something about it and failed. There is nothing more the Dems can do about this. At this point, the Dems are not discussing it cause there is no point. The only ones resurfacing it now is Trump and his ilk.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    What's inconvenient to your argument is that Democrats and intel agencies have very recently fabricated evidence against Trump -- the Steele Dossier and the Clinton plan (using foreign intel agents like Joseph Mifsud and Stephan Halper) to manufacture a scandal. It's literally what they just did. And there's a good chance similar dishonest acts occurred around J6 and the 2020 election. So it's not projecting when the Democrats literally just demonstrated the very same behavior.


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    Again? lol. Yea, projecting again.

    The Steele Dossier was initially funded by a Republican. The funding dried up and the DNC carried it on. The ONLY transgression is a campaign finance disclosure. What campaign doesn't do opposition research? So the DNC was stupid for not disclosing opposition research. Big woop.

    But speaking of campaign finance disclosure, you know what is blatant fraud, paying off girls that you had an affair with and having them sign NDA and then cooking the books so those payments don't show up.

    Again, Republicans projecting. Trumps transgressions are way worse.

    J6? Trump wasn't dishonest? C'mon. Anything you can throw out there, Trump was WAY worse, by an order of magnitude worse.

    Stealing a candy bar and murder are both crimes. One is WAY worse.
     
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    Trump is desperate to make the Epstein linkage go away, so he flashes shiny objects to divert attention. in this case, the old / old no-story of the Steele dossier,

    it would take a very willfully ignorant person to parrot that same old spin, Traitor George fits that requirement like a glove
     
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    the things you believe that just ain't so.

    smh; SMDH, even.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    Paragraph 1
    : Campaign finance disclosure (that led to a literal attempted coup) isn't a big deal.

    Paragraph 2: Campaign finance disclosure (you know, Trump's "34 felonies" for a bookkeeping entry) is blatant fraud and very serious!

    LOL -- I am belly laughing at your attempt at an argument!


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  14. krosfyah

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    Again, projecting.

    The rise of every dictator is filled with propaganda and misinformation about the "enemy".
     
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    bombshell projection
     
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  16. krosfyah

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    A coup isn't attempting to win an election. A coup is what happened on J6. Every election has irregularities that must be investigated and mitigated. Not every election, in fact no elections, end with J6. That one is Trump alone.

    Al Capone, whom is universally understood to be a criminal, was sentenced for bookkeeping entries. People were found guilty of those bookkeeping entries, mind you. And the Trump pardoned those people that were legally prosecuted through existing laws and processes.

    Literally ANYTHING that you can accuse the Dems of, the Repubs have done 10x worse. Literally anything. And that's exactly the point. It's a deflection of the truth.

    Meanwhile, Trump continues to consolidate power ...which is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to prevent.
     
  17. basso

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    ::Obama laughing dot gif.::
     
  18. krosfyah

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    Authoritarian playbook tactic #7: Marginalize and undermine dissenting voices.

    Meanwhile, today Gregg Abbott issued arrest warrants of democrats at the behest of Trump.

    Trumps consolidation of power continues.
     
  19. basso

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    we agree. we just don't agree who the authoritarian is/was.
     
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  20. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    9 years of Russian collusion hoax lies that attempted to impeach a President, thwart his agenda, and ended up imprisoning numerous people on unrelated charges (to pressure them to

    The party that attempted to:

    1) Impeach Trump and kick him out of office based on their manufactured lies (Russian Collusion hoax) is now telling us what a coup is!

    2) Remove Trump's name from the ballot is now lecturing us on democracy!

    3) Weaponize the DOJ to humiliate, bankrupt, and imprison Trump for life is now talking to us about respect for the law!

    4) Consolidate power in the hands of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in DC is now lecturing us on democracy!


    But their response is a reference to Al Capone (~80 years ago he went to prison). LMAO

    No one has restored power to the people more than Trump. The Democrats feel like they are entitled to power, regardless of the election outcomes. Which is why they've used the DOJ, IRS, CIA, FBI, and Congress to try to repeatedly overturn the 2016 election.


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