Was Correa the right player to go over the luxury tax for?

Time will tell, but I think his numbers were getting better and better every month. I think he will help the team at least this year.

 

The answer is yes

 

Not my money. The only thing that really changed is that our compensation pick for Framber will be one round lower.

The question is he worth roughly 25 million a year which is 5 million more than Walker and Abreu. I say he is especially with his history to the club. He's also only 30 years old.

 

L-E-A-D-E-R-S-H-I-P. Has been a missing ingredient for a couple years now

 

Pujols was 32 when he joined the Angels and was still recording MVP votes 2 of the next 3 years. Correa is 30. Yes, his defense at short slipped, but moving to 3rd should mitigate some of the range issues.

 

Pujols also one of the greatest players to ever walk planet earth.

 

I mean, right now Adam Everett and Brad Ausmus would be batting 5-6 in the lineup. I’ll go ahead and take Correa.

 

What, exactly, does any of this mean? He's hovering just below "average" this year; how is that not a "MLB level player"? He has the same OPS+ as Yanier Diaz. Correa had a dreadful start. But since May 1, he's posting a .763 OPS - that's nearly 75% of his season, and it would rank 4th among healthy Astros.

I don't know what to make of your assertion that a lot of MLB teams "obviously" agreed with *your* assessment. We have no idea what teams thought/think.

Lastly, the Angels signed Pujols to a $240M contract; the Astros owe Correa ~$70M. These two things are not remotely similar, and the Astros - with nearly $33M coming off the payroll next season (Abreu, Montero & Pressly) are not going to be overly-hindered by the contract.

This is starting to sound personal, and, frankly, untethered from reality. Carlos Correa posted a .905 OPS *last year.* Yes, health has been and will remain a constant issue. Hopefully, the move to 3B + a deeper team with the capacity to load-manage (they'll have 3 *very good* defensive 3B - in addition to Correa - on the roster next year) will help him stay healthier.

But the Astros are a significantly better team today than they were yesterday and likely have enough - again, with players returning - to protect their 5-game lead in the division. And then you roll with possibly the best 1-2 starters in the AL and a line-up that is suddenly much deeper and better - again, if injured players return and perform.

Kikuchi, who had a near-5 ERA when the Astros traded for him, is now "much needed" but the underperforming Correa is some albatross who might be out of baseball soon?...

If the Astros can get Pena, Meyers and Yordan healthy, they are going to have a very good, very flexible line-up. And next year, with Paredes back, they are going to have an even better, more flexible line-up.

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As for the question you ask in the subject: who cares? Why do we all worry about someone else's money? If, next year, Crane requests the Astros to tear it all down, Twins style, then we can rant & rave about poor financial management. But Jim Crane has never, ever - not once - let money get in the way of putting the best team on the field.

 

This thread is not going how strosb4bros expected...

 

Pujols's listed age was 32 when he joined Angels. Based on comments he's made (e.g., Octavio Dotel being 3-4 years older), he's about 3 years older, assuming Dotel didn't lie about his age as well.

 

We know you hate him...the same way you hate that the Astros made a great trade with Tucker. CC is not a negative WAR player and, yes, he's a MLB level player. No idea why you keep harping that same false narrative. Who's gives af about his cost ..Crane feels CC is worth it.

 

I've got a better poll. Who is the bigger dumbass: Apache Warrior or Strosb4bros

Before this thread, I thought Apache Warrior had him easily beat but now I'm not really sure.

 

i think this was a great add. correa with the intangibles and fire the team can use right now. hard to pickup a clubhouse leader at the deadline, but dana and crane got it done

 

My disclaimer, I’ve watched perhaps a few Carlos Correa highlights as he went to the Twins; I’ll follow his stats, but I don’t know how he impacted them much.

Nevertheless, while he was in Houston Carlos Correa led by oozing swagger. And that seemed to be contagious. When the Astros would start second guessing themselves, it seemed Correas style kept the clubhouse loose.

I think a guy like Altuve will benefit greatly by having Carlos around, because it seems Altuve puts a lot of pressure on himself to be great.

Hence I’m most excited to see if Carlos Correa can bring back that moxie, that swagger, the cool back into the clubhouse. Because when a team is good, they need to have the cherry on top confidence to propel them into the elite of the elite.

FYI, Verlander was another fella that had that moxie. But it seemed that age finally has caught up to him. Like Altuve said, “… love the dude” - but Verlander is on the wrong side of 40.

 

That is such a tough answer. I thought about it and had one answer, then thought again and came to another. I think, ultimately it might be unknowable.
The takes that this OP starts his new threads with are literally the worst Astros takes on the internet.
The Astros just had a trade deadline that makes them contenders through 2028 and by keeping all their talent probably keeps the window open through at least 30 or 32 and this is the response?
Good golly almighty.

 

this about covered at all

 

It’s truly remarkable anyone could be an Astros fan, especially one with the username “Strosb4bros”, and not be really happy about what went down yesterday.

The hilarious part is he is so worked up about Kikuchi who has a 1.42 WHIP and a FIP above 4 right now. He’s acting like we missed out on signing prime Randy Johnson.

 

Altuve and Bregs weren't leaders? Lat year they were a bat short and that was obvious. Them losing in the playoffs had nothing to do with leadership.

The year before was a Dusty year and they were within one game of making the WS despite Dusty. So I guess you could call that a lack of leadership.

 

This is a really good point. There is a very legitimate discussion about the viability of bringing in Correa. But, for me, that can wait because - well, Correa *does* address a big, gaping need - but I also have really deep and formative memories of his time here and getting him back: it's ****ing exciting as all-get-out. I know we all fan our own way - but as you said, I don't know how you can be an Astros fan & not be giddy right now. I felt like a 7-year old on Christmas morning yesterday: my friends and I were firing off texts & basking in it. We all recognize it could be a disaster - but, man... for us, that's for another time.

Right now? This is fun!