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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The fact that you have to ask means we are in bigger trouble than we think. It's only going to get better and easier. This probably took an hour to make.
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I honestly think we should let Israel fend for themselves. Do whatever they want without or permission or help. To bad the politicians are bought and paid for with our tax dollars.
     
  3. tinman

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    Wait didn’t Hamas kidnap Americans ?
    I know the woke people here don’t think Jews are Americans but your favorite owner Les is one.

    Israel clearly the good guys

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    There’s a reason this neo nazi imbecile only spams tweets. He’s too ****ing stupid to do anything other than graze the surface.

    the worst thing that could happen to anybody is they turn into this pathetic creature. Can’t even be bothered to notice his wife sneaking out to bang Akkhmed every night while he’s stuck to Twitter.

    nobody believes you, keep spamming though loser
     
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    an inconvenient truth.


     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/07/30/gaza-egypt-trusteeship-plan/

    This country should take over Gaza — for now
    With a transitional trusteeship, Egypt could disarm Hamas, rebuild Gaza and lay the groundwork for peace.

    July 30, 2025 at 8:00 a.m. EDT
    By Ezzedine C. Fishere

    Ezzedine C. Fishere is a distinguished fellow at Dartmouth College and a former Egyptian and U.N. diplomat.


    As images and reports of starvation accumulate, ceasefire negotiations come and go, and the international community convenes conferences and issues statements that quickly dissolve into irrelevance, Gaza’s future remains suspended between a real threat of annihilation and the illusion of perpetual armed resistance.

    Against this grim backdrop, we must consider shattering a long-standing taboo. The only viable path to saving Gazans and stabilizing the Israeli-Palestinian arena is handing Egypt trusteeship over the Gaza Strip.

    This is both a moral and a strategic necessity. Egypt is the only actor with the legitimacy, proximity and capacity to rescue Gaza from its current spiral and offer its people a life outside siege, war and despair. It is also the only party trusted enough by both Israel and large segments of the Palestinian population to serve as a custodial power.

    Two parallel agreements could create the foundation for such an arrangement: one among Egypt, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, and another between Egypt and Israel. These would secure the release of all hostages and establish a permanent ceasefire.

    The Egyptian-Palestinian agreement would grant Egypt full administrative and security control over Gaza. Hamas would hand over its weapons to the Egyptian army and register all of its members with Egyptian security services. Egypt, in turn, would build a new Palestinian administration for Gaza, with a civil service and police force under Egyptian command. The Egyptian army would deploy throughout the territory to ensure security, end lawlessness and prevent the reconstitution of militant groups.

    Simultaneously, a bilateral agreement between Egypt and Israel would formalize Israeli withdrawal and establish appropriate security arrangements, including a border coordination mechanism modeled on the existing Egyptian-Israeli arrangements in Sinai. The blockade would be lifted as security cooperation took shape and stability returned.

    This framework would offer all parties a chance to win much while conceding little. It would enable Israel to restore security and eliminate the military threat posed by Hamas. Though transferring control of Gaza to Egypt might run counter to the ambitions of Israel’s most extreme factions, the majority of Israelis have no interest in Gaza beyond ensuring their own security. Egypt’s nearly five decades of security cooperation with Israel should provide sufficient reassurance for them.

    For Hamas, this arrangement would allow disarmament without surrender. By handing its weapons to Egypt and not to its enemy, Hamas could claim it liberated Gaza from Israeli occupation, accepting a face-saving exit from its self-destructive cycle of resistance and reprisal.

    This framework would also give Palestinians an opportunity to build new national institutions, overcoming the old divisions between the moribund Palestinian Authority and other factions. Moreover, it could serve as a replicable model for the West Bank, with Jordan potentially assuming a similar custodial role.

    To ensure that this isn’t a temporary fix but rather a transformative project, the plan must include a robust international reconstruction initiative, properly financed and with rigorous international oversight. The entire Gaza Strip must be rebuilt and redeveloped, including the construction of a seaport and airport. Until these become operational, Arish in Egypt could serve as Gaza’s temporary logistical and commercial hub.

    Gaza’s recovery must also involve economic disentanglement from Israel. For far too long, mediators have operated under the illusion that Israeli-Gazan trade and Israeli security can coexist. Today, Gaza’s economy is shattered, and rebuilding it will require new foundations, ones that exclude Israel — at least for the foreseeable future. Security imperatives on both sides make economic integration unworkable for years to come.

    Ensuring Gaza’s economic viability will be a heavy lift, and Egypt cannot do it alone. The United States, the European Union and key Arab partners will have to go well beyond financing the rebuilding of Gaza. They will need to bring investment to the ravaged territory while also working to alleviate Egypt’s crushing debt burden. And they will need to provide political guarantees that the new framework will be a stepping stone toward regional peace, not a new source of friction with Israel.

    Crucially, this is not a proposal for annexation, but a vision for a transitional trusteeship with international recognition and oversight. Its goal would be to lay the groundwork for Palestinian self-determination, free from militancy and violence. Over time, Gaza could become the seat of a reimagined Palestinian state — one born not of slogans and bloodshed but of law, stability and economic prosperity.

    Egypt’s trusteeship would not be indefinite. But a future Palestinian state in Gaza would probably remain politically and militarily associated with Egypt. It would have no independent military and would remain bound by relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions, including Resolution 242, which guarantees the right of all states in the region, including Israel, to live in peace within secure, recognized borders. This would offer long-term reassurance to Israel and help anchor regional stability.

    There is no other realistic solution for Gaza. The Palestinian Authority is a nonstarter for Israel, which sees it as politically irrelevant and operationally weak. Leaving Hamas in charge is even less acceptable. And the idea of an independent technocratic committee governing Gaza while Hamas retains its weapons is a fiction no serious party will buy. The actual alternatives are mass displacement or indefinite Israeli military control — either of which would be disastrous for Gazans and destabilizing for the region.

    Egypt must step in. No one else can ensure a lasting peace.

     
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    The two actual real solutions.
     
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    The problem is that Egypt doesn’t want the Palestinians
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    Can you blame them ?
    This is their wall
     
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    Let's be honest the Palestinian civilians are so ignorant - They believe that Hamas should legitimately govern when Hamas even says that Palestinian civilian deaths are absolutely necessary...

    The Gaza health ministry, which is in effect Hamas- keeps turning out this 60,000 number knowing full well they are mixing in dead Hamas scum with ignorant civilians.

    These people need Jesus , holy water and reeducation- bless them - Hamas needs to be destroyed and I don't care if it's 1 million of them- kill them all - they stated they "love death " - let them have it
     
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    Who wants Gazans? lol No thanks
     
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    What a terrible person
     
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    Curtis Lemay, probably.
     
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    Egypt rejects wokes
     
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    all y'all fainting.

     
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