Coal has a hard time getting financied cuz itz 2x more expensive and its a old out dated technology. NINETY percent of all new electricity supply was by renewables in 2024. The government didnt end the coal industry. It got too expensive and inefficient to build which is what happens with old technology Theres no point in even debating you cuz youre just a moron. MAGATS think coal is more viable than solar lol. These morons @El_Conquistador would've been arguing against cars in favor of horses in the early 1900s.
Wow, you continue to amaze with your ignorance! You are very, very wrong yet again. Coal is the single largest source of electricity generation globally. https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/charted-coal-still-dominates-global-electricity-generation/ Coal generates around 34% of global electricity -- because in many locations it's the most cost-effective solution. In India and China, coal generates 73% and 58% of the countries' electricity, respectively. It's beyond dumb of you to think that coal is an energy from yesteryear. Because it's abundant, it's cheap, and it's easily transportable. But like most forms of energy, it's viability depends on the location. Places near natural gas will use natural gas. Places near desert sun will use solar. Places near rivers will use hydro. But coal remains the global king and the US is the Saudi Arabia of coal. Let's take advantage of this low cost resource and give Americans lower electricity bills. That's common sense. Coal is also exported, bringing wealth into this country by monetizing our abundant resources. You have a lot to learn about so many topics! You are not at my level at all. GOOD DAY
MAGAs in 1900- horses and buggy make up the large % of transportation around the world! We need to go to war with automobiles! Yeah no **** Coal makes up a large chunk of the electricity as it had a 50+ year head start. Look at new electricity growth and it's predominantly solar/wind. Literally going to war for coal in the year 2025 when climate change is at its worst Cost of coal per MW is 36-45$ Cost of solar per MW is 16-24$ Yeah sure coal is totally cheap and this isnt even taking into the health effect of coal
He's only spewing all his praise for the orange geezer to distract from the point of the thread title itself. Trump flat out spewed 5 bold lies about inflation to Americans this week. It's the usual protocol for him. Lie, deflect, distract, deceive, grift, golf, fundraise, do tit for tat favors that benefit him, repeat.
he is too busy EDUCATING but he forgets to learn something. I used to work with psych patients and when they start spewing out made up BS, we couldn't just say NO THATS NOT TRUE, OR HE IS NOT STANDING THERE. You had to say "I know the man in the suit is real to you...." @astros123, at the end of the day it's his reality. arguing with him using logic or facts is not going to help him. in his reality biden from start to finish had 9% inflation and the day after trump got into office, it went under 3%. no charts or graphs you show him will help him understand inflation was under 3% in april 2024 and now is on the rise. stop responding to him. it just encourages him. leave him be.
Just a few of his rally lies.... Trump Rally in Bozeman, MT 8/9/24: “Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.” Trump Rally in North Carolina 8/14/24: “Under my administration, we will be slashing energy and electricity prices by half within 12 months, at a maximum 18 months” “Prices will come down. You just watch: They’ll come down, and they’ll come down fast, not only with insurance, with everything.” Trump Rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania 8/17/24: “Starting the day I take the oath of office, I will rapidly drive prices down and we will make America affordable again. We’re going to make it affordable again.” “We’re going to get your energy prices down. We’re going to get your energy prices down by 50%.” Trump campaign remarks in Waunakee as vice presidential debate set to begin 10/01/24: “Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again. We’ll do that. We’ve got to bring it down.” *****Nobody's electric bill will be cut in half this year, next year, or the following year, especially with summers getting hotter and hotter. I'd bet money on that. Just lying BS he spewed while campaigning.
So true. I mean the description of your psych patients sounds just like Trump, and those believing his crazy BS stories won't change. It could be narcissism, in not wanting to admit Trump lies to them constantly, or they too can be living in an altered state. Regardless, the die-hard MAGA far right Trump lovers aren't going to change if they haven't by now.
You know it's ridiculous when Trump calls it beautiful clean coal. Yeah, what a dumbass period in time for America.
You know you are being intellectually dishonest unlike some of the other guys here who are just stupid.
Why would we keep using coal? It's 2025, not 1925 Coal has been replaced cheaply and effectively by natural gas. Oil saw record production domestically under Biden
Where I am in Europe even the far right parties are pro renewables. Its sincerely crazy how the Republicans have declared war on solar/wind in favor of freaking COAL! The dirtiest most expensive form of energy
Coal's economic viability depends on the location -- which part of the USA, which part of the world. Natural gas is not cheap everywhere. Coal is the #1 fuel source globally for electricity generation. China and India have no cheap natural gas. You lack even a baseline understanding of energy markets. Bumper sticker-level depth of knowledge. The natural gas lobby and climate change NGO's have done a number on so many people with their ads against coal. The truth is very different. Coal provides low-cost, reliable energy to billions of people on earth every day. GOOD DAY
I know the energy industry has invested a ton in lng. Regardless coal is a dead industry here in terms of usage. Just because you love fossil fuels you don't have to lie to yourself about coal. That's a whopper You're right I didn't know we still exported coal 2024 was a six.year high so you're still wrong
Bingo! I love him when he comes out once a month unexpectedly and drop some Reagan era bombs and brags about his mistresses Greta blue Jimmy Choo shoes.
Not saying it would have made a difference, but it's a shame Harris let Trump make the false claims about restrictions on oil and gas. Inflation was a lost battle, the return to normal was too late but she could have still focused more on it
The issue is that Biden really never really bragged about what he accomplished and tried to explain why things were happening. I think he expected people to just be smart. Unfortunately normal people aren't that smart proven by some of the dumb stuff posted here regularly. Harris was never popular. She wasn't even in the top 3 when she primaried against Biden. She has no charisma and nothing substantial to hang her hat on other than her mixed raced upbringing which was a negative with the racist. Being female made it worst.
I'm at a utility conference and just witnessed the full court press from the White House for nuclear, specifically small modular reactors. Utility commissioners are wrestling right now with the problem of so much expected load growth from data centers and other new industrial loads. Building power plants and interconnecting them to the grid is far slower than building a data center. So they are feeling a lot of pressure - in general and from the White House - to change their deliberative practices and just start greenlighting nukes and high voltage transmission. The problem is the cost of wires and infrastructure and sometimes plants on the grid is passed to consumers. And if they overbuild - say, they accommodate a 100 GW data center and in 5 years the data center realizes a lot of compute efficiency and becomes a 25 GW data center - it will be the rest of us that pays for the stranded assets. Speakers from DOE and the White House didn't worry about that stuff. Their emphasis is that we must win the AI race, so we must provide all the power AI wants, and we must do it on Tech's timeline. And the technology the white house wants is nukes. They want efficiencies of scale and the benefits of standardized parts and modular design. Idk, commissioners and state legislatures might balk in some states, but I expect many will reduce their oversight and diligence to make it happen. Coal has negative externalities that for decades were not priced in. Coal burners were dumping all their pollution on us for free. The carbon taxes and permit requirements are a mechanism to attempt to fully price in the input costs of coal energy. And lol and behold, when coal is asked to compete with all its costs priced in, it actually isn't a good competitor. Now there is still some work to be done to recognize some of its benefits that we have also taken for granted - namely, it's dispatchability - but that's not going to change the balance because natural gas has more dispatchability attributes than coal does.
It is disappointing the WH cut solar, battery and ev subsidies. I am ok with streamlining them to weed out the abuse. Batteries could go a long way to help streamline grid efficiency.
