We rejoice! It means that, even though they were Jews, Jesus will let them into his mythical sky kingdom! [am I doing this right?]
You are insane. I don't think you'd believe something if it happened in front of you. Remember, people in Germany refused to believe there were concentration camps right next to them even as they smelt burning flesh. You should be ashamed.
@ROXRAN thinks these people should be bombed and killed. Basso is already a well known neo-nazi (and doesn't hide it), so his case isn't as bad.
we are entitled to believe different things... I believe on October 7 if Israel did not respond to the attacks against their people, Hamas would not have stopped until millions and millions of Israel's were dead to the very last- I truly believe that. The government of Gaza has openly stated- that they love death, that their own civilian population death is not only acceptable but in many cases encouraged IF it is used in a manner to harm or discredit Israel - the populous of Gaza has voted for this government to represent themselves and they cheered October 7 and they're only regret as they couldn't stop until every Israeli was dead - I'm not ashamed to have a problem with that. That's what I'm entitled to regardless of how you feel about it- the question is, how should Israel respond considering the government is in love with death has no problem with their own civilians being used as shields or dying or propaganda or any manner if it harms Israel. How do we deal with so many people willing to have such a vile government in charge - this is truly madness to support Hamas- unfortunately there's going to be civilian casualties because Hamas wants to intertwine with the populous,- and it's going to be ugly- I regret the children dying. I really do- children should be a gift from God- instead if they are born in Gaza, they honestly are better off unborn those poor souls .... What future do they have when their own parents believe in a government that states they aren't worth anything? this is the epitome of evil. Once Gaza stops supporting Hamas - I will support you in condemning Israel if they at THAT point cannot coexist -
[I am in no way condoning killing or maiming children] But, this the exact belief of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, ISIS, etc. Palestinian textbooks have explicitly addressed the "appreciation of the concept of martyrdom and martyrs" as a learning objective. Hamas and PIJ groomed members to accept death and made promises about the afterlife. Hamas upholds martyrdom as the highest expression of jihad and Islamic belief. Hamas asserts that the use of suicide bombers has empowered the Palestinian people strategically. Hamas officials have rejected claims that suicide attacks harm the Palestinian cause, asserting that “martyrdom operations” reflect the triumph of the Muslim soul, faith, and spirituality over the Israeli or Western “technological mindset.” Istishhadi, meaning "martyrous one", is a newer term developed by Islamist organization Hamas and is used specifically by Palestinians for those carrying out amaliyyat istishhadiyya (martyrdom operations). Istishhadi is different from the concept of shahid in that istishhadi is the idea of proactively seeking martyrdom; an idea that is not traditionally Islamic. While the shahid concept hints at victimization, the proactive concept of istishhadi highlights heroism in the sacrificial act. While fida’i took on missions that would surely result in death, the istishhadiyeen take their own lives. The evolution of martyrdom, known as Istishhad, from its Islamic origins into a central tenet of Palestinian nationalist identity, embraced by both religious and secular factions, is closely linked to the rise and activities of Palestinian Islamist organizations like Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Signs on the walls of Hamas-run kindergartens read: "The children of the kindergarten are the shaheeds [martyrs] of tomorrow." Teachers' guides incorporate depictions of jihad as an obligation, glorifying martyrdom as a noble sacrifice accompanied by the promise of heavenly rewards for those who die. In 2006, a study conducted by a Palestinian psychiatrist in Gaza revealed that among children aged 12 to 14, 36% of boys and 17% of girls expressed a desire to become martyrs. In 2017, Hamas aired a children's TV program in Gaza, showcasing young children praising suicide attacks and expressing a desire to sacrifice themselves for the liberation of Jerusalem and Palestine. In Islam, a "shaheed" refers to a martyr, one who dies in the path of Allah, and is highly revered. Quranic verses and Hadith emphasize that martyrs are considered alive, receiving sustenance from God, and rejoicing in their reward. They are not to be mourned as dead, but rather celebrated for their sacrifice. Hamas, Islamic Jihad, ISIS and other jihadist terror organizations twist Quranic verses to recruit and promote martyrdom & self-sacrifice among children. Quran 3:169-170: "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah." Quran 22:58-59: "Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die,- On them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision: Truly Allah is He Who bestows the best provision." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar...xpressed pride in,are not shown fighting back.
I humbly am disinclined to acquiesce your request but I will say : we are all blessed when we live not in a land where the people elect a government that states: - "Love death for the sake of Allah as much as our enemies love life" .. and that Palestinian civilian deaths are "necessary sacrifices" btw- you think I'm rejoicing their death that's quite the contrary I'm rejoicing that their souls are saved. They are in a better place
Im not implying what’s going on there is good, just implying if the answer is “we have to kill them all” that we are hardly any better.
What if a soul doesn’t exist, and those kids chance at living were forever robbed from them, at the hands of our tax dollars? Then what would you be rejoicing? Just a tough spot to put in a but,
The problem is, they have to embrace life and not embrace death- And you may say, what are you talking about? Don't they cry for their children? I'm sure they do ... But the government of Hamas would shoot a innocent civilian baby and cut off its arms and legs and post it on social media if it knew it could get away with painting the picture that Israel did it somehow Without a second thought.... Hamas needs to be destroyed because not only do they want death for Israel along the way they want death to their own civilians and their own civilians for whatever reason of being mine warped need to be reprogrammed mentally it's just a tough situation. I'm not for children being killed - it's a tough deal, but I honestly feel in my heart Those children are in a better place- unfortunately, they should be living a great life and smiling, but because of the Gaza government of Hamas- it's a raw deal for everyone
Reads like a mental maze with the end being pre-written “yes we should kill those kids” God bless, I guess
I see the Israeli foreign ministry is now going to fund a tour of their country by right-wing social media influencers from the United States. A paid Trump propaganda tour says a lot, and by that I don't mean it as a good thing.
I acknowledge that your are masking/framing it as - hoping for the children’s souls to be saved, which is what you think happens when they die.
Not intended that way. I hadn't been active the last few pages, so I didn't want you to misinterpret why I was jumping into the conversation. I just wanted to point out that the sentence you posted is Hamas' & PIJ's exact ideology.
Sure I can add my condemnation of a person's or groups desire for bad things is not an endorsement for an opposing groups desire for bad things. Group A's atrocities do not excuse groups B's, I won't accept that argument from others, either. Roxran responded to a picture of two dead children (that needs to be spoiled this forums moderation has gone to dogshit and it's really a shame) with "Rejoice!" and that's pretty upsetting for me.
Choices are not made in a vacuum. The decision isn't kill this kid or don't. The decision is, let these terrorists live and keep killing innocent Israeli citizens or kill the terrorists knowing that this kid might also die.
It's just a different vacuum being painted, one that ends up with "yes we have to kill those kids". Israel is relatively very wealthy and militarily capable, Palestine is not, and tens of thousands of kids have been murdered in the last 2 years. Find me a new vacuum.
