Assuming KD's healthy and can be the Rockets leading scorer, FVV's biggest question mark going forward will be his 3pt shooting. Dude needs to shoot like he did last playoffs, and not what he shot last regular season. To me he's a question mark, and you at least feel better if the Rockets can sub in Sheppard in games he's putting up 2-10 shooting.
He has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. We are a LT team and 100% will stay that way. FVV was not a “sometime starter” or “decent” in Toronto - he was an All-Star. And DLo hasn’t played a minute of winning basketball ever. Honestly, DD might be the worst poster here if you add the inaccuracies with the strength of opinion with the constant barrage of repetitive, unsupported posts. Just a waste of space. Bobby is horrible also but he’s left often just factually wrong.
Not that I want DLo over FVV nor do I share a lot of DD's opinions, but if you are going to point out someone else's inaccuracies, you really shouldn't be posting inaccuracies yourself. DLo and FVV. have the same number of All-Star game appearances, so if your argument is that FVV was once an all-star, that same accolade applies to DLo also. DD is also not wrong calling a some time start or decent in Toronto. FVV was indeed a bench player in the Toronto championship year. And he was atrocious in that year's playoffs. Ever since he became a starter, FVV has been 1-3 in playoff series. With the only series win against a Brooklyn team still resting injured Kyrie and KD in their first year with the team. He has yet to beat a real playoff team since becoming a starter. So if you want to talk "winning basketball" regarding FVV, either you are talking about regular season success, or post-season success carried by an all-star cast (Kawhi, Lowry, Siakam, and OG on that Toronto team). Neither of which are all that impressive. Even if it's a bit more impressive than DLo. But of course one is paid $25mil the other is paid $5mil. So there is that.
BINGO ! Some people play checkers while others play chess. It is ok to have a different opinion - not all of us see the game the same way......and there is more than 1 way to win a game and/or a ring. DD
See if you can get a DD and BTG face off. Great entertainment! Just a thread that everyone agrees not to interfere, just post LOL or memes.
He is on my ignore.....sorry...... I just talk ball, and from my perspective of what I like to see, that doesn't mean I am right, or wrong, most of it is opinion but some people get all butt hurt when you use a message board to discuss or argue, which is ironically what a BBS is for. I can't help the thin skinned, expecting people to always agree, or to not go back and forth, but that is the fun part for me. And again, it is cool to have different opinions on things, some people love FVV, I don't, I find him below average as a PG - but that is preference. Even though I am not a big fan, I can appreciate what he does well in protecting the ball and slowing pace, as well as playing pretty good D...... I just want more of a creator and finisher at that spot......just what I believe the team needs.... It is ok to think differently.....you would be wrong, but it is ok. DD PS. kidding about the wrong thing...lol.
Anyone can have any opinion. If you come out and say that Landale is better than Jokic, that's still an opinion, but don't expect people not to challenge/laugh at it. When you say you want Dlo over FVV, people will challenge/laugh at that because of how absurd it is.
I agree totally with you on FVV. I do think he can be valuable as an off-ball guard on offense and a good defensive PG. He is not worth 25M, but I think they did that for the salary slot more than anything.
It is not absurd at all, DLo is a primary ball handler and good scorer, his numbers are very favorable to FVV and he is a much better athlete.....and penetrator. If I said Landale was better than Jokic, I agree with you, but your premise about that being equivalent is bonkers. BONKERS ! DD
It’s more absurd, sure. But dlo and fvv are many many levels apart as players. Dlo is an ok backup but nothing close to a starting level player. A COMPLETE zero on defense, probably even less than that. He just sucks.
I don't understand some Rockets fans fascination with FVV to the point where you need to make up stuff about others to make FVV look good in comparison. DLo was starting for the WCFs Lakers team two years ago and subsequently the Lakers playoff team the following year. You have to jump through a lot of mental gymnastics to just say he's not a starting level player when he has done just that 2 of the last 3 years for playoff teams. Are you guys just trying to bash any player DD like? Or are you really that into a Toronto lifer who only came to Houston because we had lots of capspace and overpaid him?
It’s not that deep. When taking the entire game of basketball into account (i.e. defense too), FVV is a far superior player to DLo. FVV is a winning player. If you can’t see that, then that’s on you.
Looking at advanced stats like WS, VORP, etc., they aren't particularly close. Russell is a negative +/- guy for his career. A bad shooter last year. Not a defender. Peaked at 22. Has bounced around the NBA his whole career for a reason. This is the guy y'all are championing? He's not good. FVV isn't an All-Star caliber player either, but he's had a much better career and is a better candidate to play PG for the Houston Rockets this upcoming season. Full stop.
I'm not championing anyone. I just don't like it when people make up lies. If a player starts for a tanking team you can argue he's not a "real starter." But if someone starts for a playoff team, much less one that went to the WCFs, then he is a starter.
Its not as simple as numbers, although numbers arent great for DLo. What has the coaching staff built here? Culture? Personality? DLo is the guy excited to go to the nets after the lakers so he can have more freedom on offense... You think Ime wants a player like that here? You also clearly dont value profrssionalism. FVV's influence has been all over the young guys. Maybe you wanna be like the hornets with no culture.
It's not that deep. If a player starts, then he's a starter. If you can't see that, then it's on you.
Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't call DLo "not a starter." If you want to say FVV is better than DLo, sure. That's your opinion and anyone on the internet can have an opinion. If you want to say they're vastly different because one is a starter and the other is not, then that's something else.
