I'm beginning to think that the October 7th attacks were on the whole a net negative for the Palestinian people.
This is horrific! I think about the orange man and Bibi wining and dining and praising each other last week and it disgusts me. Ten children a day losing a limb in Gaza, warns UN-backed body A generation of Palestinian children left disabled by Israeli attacks, with over 40,500 suffering from new war-related injuries since October 2023 Ten children a day are losing one or both limbs in Gaza due to Israel's assault on the Palestinian enclave, a report warned on Tuesday. “Gaza now has the highest number of child amputees per capita anywhere in the world - many losing limbs and undergoing surgeries without even anaesthesia,” UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said. Last week, the UN agency for children, Unicef, warned that children experiencing acute malnutrition are particularly vulnerable and face a greater "likelihood of dying from simple causes by 10 times". The report said 134,105 people including over 40,500 children have suffered new war-related injuries since the war began in October 2023. Twenty-five percent are estimated to have new disabilities requiring acute and ongoing rehabilitation. "There is no safe space in Gaza. Twenty months of intense hostilities have destroyed the protection environment for persons with disabilities and older persons," it said. Over 35,000 people are believed to have significant hearing damage due to explosions. Ten children per day lose one or both of their legs." According to the report, Gaza’s only limb reconstruction and rehabilitation centre became non-functional in December 2023 due to a lack of supplies and specialised health workers, and was severely damaged in air strikes in February 2024, depriving children and adults of life-saving services. Rights groups and NGOs say the war on Gaza has had a devastating effect on the children of the enclave. The Palestinian Ministry of Health says that more than 17,000 of the 58,573 Palestinians killed since October 2023 are children and that they account for 30 percent of the total injuries. An average of 15 children per day acquire potentially life-altering disabilities, the ministry said. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ten-children-day-losing-limb-gaza-warns-un The Genocide leader and his accomplice have their own plans. Bibi bribing Trump, and the two of them conspiring together, and pretending all is good.
the Dersh responds There is no ‘genocide’ in Gaza — why the claim equals Holocaust denial https://nypost.com/2025/07/15/opinion/why-gaza-genocide-claims-equal-holocaust-denial/ excerpt: It has become fashionable among anti-Israel zealots — including hard-left academics — to use the term “genocide” to characterize Israel’s response to the murder, rape, beheadings and kidnapping of more than 1,400 innocent Israelis on Oct. 7, 2023. Self-proclaimed “genocide scholar” Omer Barton wrote in The New York Times this week that he knows genocide when he sees it, and he sees it in Gaza. (Not in Israel on Oct. 7, though). The king of Jordan accused Israel of genocide on Monday, following the lead of the UN rapporteur on Palestine. The label will no doubt be a central part of campus rallies this fall. But this accusation is false as a matter of fact, morality, logic and law — and a dangerous distortion of history that amounts to Holocaust denial. It trivializes the powerful term “genocide” and applies it to nearly every war fought by democracies during the last century, especially those directed against terrorism and other forms of modern asymmetrical warfare. By doing so, it encourages terrorism and emboldens terrorists who use civilian human shields to force their enemies into making tragic and deadly choices. Most distressingly, it makes genocide a meaningless epithet to be invoked promiscuously by those opposed to particular wars or nations. The Holocaust was the personification of genocide. Its expressed aim was the destruction of the entire Jewish race, wherever they were located. Not only did the systematic mass murder of six million Jewish civilians serve no military purpose, on many occasions the Nazis actually compromised military goals to accomplish their non-military goal of murdering every baby who had a Jewish grandparent. They went so far as to ingather Jews from areas that were not military targets and transfer them to death camps. These willful and systematic efforts to exterminate an entire “race” bears absolutely no relationship to what Israel is doing in Gaza: Every civilian death in Gaza is collateral to achieving legitimate military goals. Even those who believe that Israel has gone too far in killing a disproportionate number of Palestinian civilians must acknowledge that Israeli actions do not parallel the gas chambers and mobile killing units that characterized the Nazi genocide. To compare these two very different efforts is to suggest one of two possible conclusions: Either the Nazis did not employ gas chambers and other systematic methods of deliberately murdering every Jew they could find; or the Israeli government’s military campaign is morally indistinguishable from the Nazi death camps. more at the link
Would all the other Jews be ok if instead of genocide we simply called it mass murder of civilians and indiscriminate killing ? I say this tongue in cheek . I know many Jews , like me , are upset and find it reprehensible what Israel is doing . Just because terror is tricky to fight and Hamas is using terrible tactics like human shields .... Doesn't mean that wiping out the civilian population is the right answer. Furthermore , the idea has been expressed that there are no innocents in Gaza . What lunacy . Yes these babies and children are so deeply indoctrinated that they might as well be Hamas. I have cousins that think that Israel is NOT denying aid and that they are being as precise as possible. The evidence tells a different story I don't know if peace in the middle east is possible. I don't know if there are anything but temporary solutions. Most everyone that survives in Gaza will bear a deep resentment and hatred towards Israel for the rest of their lives and may be driven towards terror. I do think Jews across the world will bear the consequences of netanyahu's crusade and that he is making it less safe for Jews both in and out of Israel. If it's not a genocide it's 99 percent of the way there . @Os Trigonum , Israel has been systematically dismantling what healthcare system was in place in Gaza and are targeting doctors. @basso you have have a real argument in questioning information from the Palestinian ministry of whatever but also consider that there is ample misinformation from the Israeli side as well. Bibi has said Iran is months away from getting a nuke for about the last 20 years .. I wouldn't trust him with a shekel. Genocides don't need gas chambers to be classified as such @Os Trigonum lol at the diction in that article "it has become fashionable" ... As if there is no reason. Hey it has become fashionable among sportswriters to call LeBron James one of the greatest basketball players of all time . Doing so trivializes Michael Jordan's place as the goat and denies that he won more scoring championships . I swear to God , when did Jews become such pansies ? Meanwhile I'm sure there are a lot of hard right truly antisemitic people cheering this on because they know the other shoe will drop and Jews will eventually be vilified for this horrific war.
There is a reason there are international laws against war crimes and crimes against humanity. Bombing the limbs off of children daily, week after week, month after month is disgusting and horrific.
What an excellent post, I am not Jewish but growing up in a religious household we were taught to treat Israel as if they were one of us............but as I get older and see what BiBi has done is nothing short of evil, yes they should protect themselves and I hate Hamas to but they should be doing strikes with surgical precision and stop killing CIVILIANS. I can only comment on the pics I have seen but Gaza is destroyed and you have people not getting aid and that's on Israel........................from the comfort of the USA I see each side as HUMANS and Hamas has done evil things but so has BiBi. I wish they would get rid of BiBi but I think trump would not allow that or for him to go to trial. I cannot fathom what its like just to survive in Gaza
Supposedly protecting Arab Druze Syrians from extremists who want to exterminate religious minorities. New Syrian leader Ahmed Al-Shara aka Abu Mohammad Al-Julani had vowed to protect non-Muslims, non-sunnis, Christians and Druze from persecution. "Israel is committed to preventing harm to the Druze in Syria due to the deep brotherly alliance with our Druze citizens in Israel, and their familial and historical ties to the Druze in Syria.” And, yes, they should also protect Arab Palestinians in the West Bank from extremist Israeli settlers. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/15/middleeast/israel-strikes-syria-sectarian-clashes-druze-intl
Yes, clearly a bad idea, just like the US funding Osama bin Laden when he was part of the mujahideen (which eventually metastasized in al Qaeda) was a bad idea. They should have just fought the PLO directly. Using people who hate you as proxies while arming and training them is bound to backfire.
Sure . In WW2 you could just vilify hitler and ignore Mussolini, himmler , Goering , and all the other bad actors . But life isn't that simple Did you learn that two wrongs don't make a right in school ? What about when there are two wrongs, just ignore the second one ? Where did you go to school ?
