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Zohran Mamdani on pace to become NYC Mayor in major upset over Cuomo

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  1. glynch

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    I liked Australia better. Sort of like having Americans living with the economic confidence and security that the Nordics have. You can feel it when the Seven Eleven clerks have good wages, vacations and healthcare.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    Hell travel all over Europe, same thing - people are happier, healthier and they have laws against PROPAGANDA on news channels....so no lying FOX News.

    DD
     
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    There are plenty of studies that show IQ by country -- easily searchable online or through AI platforms. South Korea, Japan, and northern European countries score well above 100. Lower income countries, such as countries in which many immigrants have come to the US from, score much lower.

    You cannot apply the same governance to a group of low-or-mixed IQ people as you would to a group of all-high IQ people. It's that simple. In the same way that a business leader would apply a different leadership approach to hourly vs salaried employees. The HOA rules for an affluent suburban community would look very different than the rules for an apartment complex near the Astrodome. Because of this, you can't look to the northern European model of politics and apply those same principles to the USA -- where we have a very diverse set of people groups. It just doesn't work. Because the American liberal is afraid to have a mature discussion on individual differences... they are left behind on this argument.


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    Cuomo was a deeply flawed candidate, still bruised and battered from sexual harassment scandals and COVID nursing home scandals. The other candidates in the Dem primary were lunatic fringe nut jobs. Mamdani was the silver-tongued charlatan skilled enough in persuasion to trick the "big heart little mind" liberals in NYC to vote for him. His smiles and charisma charmed them into voting for him... despite him espousing policy positions that are proven to be catastrophic failures (government-run grocery stores, rent control, defund the police, etc).

    If Mamdani becomes mayor, the biggest beneficiaries will be real estate agents in Miami, Dallas, and Nashville. As the exodus of smart, wealthy, responsible New Yorkers becomes reality. See Chicago as an example. Race to the exits once socialism knocks on your door.


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  5. astros123

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    @glynch the people you are arguing with are garbage human beings who are racists
     
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    lol billionaires trying to get cuomo to run again, they don’t get that all this does is energize and piss off people on the fence. Mamdani is going to sweep everyone at this pace
     
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    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...e-voters-in-the-u-s-are-naturalized-citizens/

    In the United States, there are approximately 24.5 million naturalized citizens. This represents about 53% of the total immigrant population in the U.S.
    23.8 million naturalized citizens were eligible to vote, accounting for about 10% of the U.S. electorate.
    About three-quarters of immigrant eligible voters (73%) have lived in the U.S. for more than two decades.



    First they come for the "illegals".
    Then the visas.
    Then the naturalized citizens.
    Then the non-whites.

    America is for white people who can trace their genealogy back to Christopher Columbus.

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    does this ignorant piece of garbage realize that he is also saying that these folks are not Americans
    • Melania Trump
    • Ivanka Trump, his first wife
    • Arnold Schwartzeneger,
    • Jensen Wang, founder of NVDA
    • Andrew Gove, founder of INTC
    • George Kurtz, founder of CrowdStrike,
    • etc
     
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    I'm digging Mamdani. I hope he wins. That said, city-run grocery stores is a terrible idea. And some of his other programs of largesse will probably struggle with the harsh realities. But, that's alright with me. I'd rather have him try for what he's aiming to do and take some hard knocks than let those other jokers step in the door.
     
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    Yea..... I'm just more curious what happens if he wins and how far he can implement his ideas.
     
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  17. SamFisher

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    Everybody all over the internet likes to **** on the city run grocery stores idea shows their ass every time they comment - ZOMG IT'S LIKE SOVIET RUSSIA YAKOV SMIRNOV HOLLA

    Have you ever had to shop in a Gristedes, a D'Agostino's, etc in Manhattan? Obviously you haven't, nor have most of the people blahtering about it on the internet.

    It is a goddamned disaster, incredibly unpleasant experience. Truly awful, any suburban krogers or giant or wahtever grocery store puts it to shame, dirty, expensive, unpleasant. Awful.

    It's hilarious to think nobody could ever improve on that experience.

    Have you been to a state-owned store? Like the state run liquor stores some states have? They are great. Low priced, huge selection, no frills- you get your poison and you pay and go, it's great.

    The state-run stores are cheaperr and better than any private liquor store I have ever been to. It's true.
     
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  18. JuanValdez

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    No, didn't go to grocery stores when I was in Manhattan. I do, however, work in an industry where private companies compete against government regulated ones, and it produces a worst-of-both-worlds situation. What I would expect to happen in NYC is that the city store offers a better experience for less. The stores nearby can't compete because the city stores don't face business risks (the taxpayer shoulders those) so they don't have to price in any profits. Those nearby stores don't reinvest and maybe leave altogether, expanding the food desert. Then NYC must open more city stores to provide coverage the market will no longer provide. The city store network approaches a monopsony in which only the distributors with city contracts still operate in the city and the other supply lines atrophy. As the field is winnowed, those distributors face less competition in the NYC market and they start charging the city store network higher prices. Even if the city store network is run by a sharp-elbowed businessman who is on top of his inventory costs (a pretty dubious proposition given what I've seen of municipal staff), he no longer has a rich competitive field on the wholesale level to draw on. If he wanted to entice another supplier to come back to NYC to undercut an existing one, the new entrant has to reinvest in warehouses, trucks, workforce, etc. In the end, the city faces higher prices and less choice.

    (The other possible outcome is that the grocery business is far more complicated than the city bargained for. They can't run it nearly as well as the for-profit stores. The stores are crap and the prices are high. The stores lose money every month, but they won't die because they taxpayer is paying for them.)

    In general, my position on government-run businesses of any kind is this: (1) Only do it where there is a natural monopoly, vital national interest, or other compelling reason; and (2) monopolize the whole value chain -- it is at that seam where public-good-oriented entities interface with for-profit companies that businesses extract extraordinary profits from the taxpayers.
     
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  19. SamFisher

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    Ok - I physically highlighted the rest of your post & deleted it without reading

    People willing to float solutions to problems are more useful even if the solutions don't work out - other than people who have no experience with the problem but claim to understand exactly what will and won't work in a context that they have no experience or knowledge of.

    I know you claim many many levels of long winded expertise in many areas, but in my experience you simply don't
     
  20. Os Trigonum

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    link will work for everyone

    New York might experiment with city-run grocery stores. How do they work?
    The idea has generated buzz since Zohran Mamdani won the New York City Democratic mayoral primary, but there are few successful examples to draw from, experts say.

    https://wapo.st/4nQxiAO
     

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