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Hurricanes, Floods, Wildfires, and Tornado Season Without FEMA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is MORE than forecasting it is the people coordinating the warnings like the ones missing in Kerrville because of the cuts.

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  2. basso

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    I read a whole book on the disaster.
     
  3. Surfguy

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    It’s unfortunate but the reality is it takes a huge tragedy like this to create the reaction to do something. Prior to this tragedy, there were several moments in time where decisions could have led to actions that would have prevented this. Unfortunately, there was a lack of urgency and those decisions made were wrong and actually increased the odds for this to occur. It all started with poor decisions to build some cabins right in the river flood zone based on an idea that the odds of a flood were 1%. All that means is a flood was inevitable and then all you have is hope the camp wasn’t in use when it would happen. This is a hard lesson learned now that wasn’t learned from the tragedy before. It really is tremendously sad but this is the fallacy of man.
     
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    FIFY
     
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  5. Rileydog

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    we don’t believe you
     
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  6. rimrocker

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    The best time to politicize a disaster is as soon as it happens. Several studies have shown that it is difficult to get legislative fixes at any level of government if much time at all passes. Of course, this brings up another problem with disaster governance: it is almost always reactive and responsive to a disaster that has already happened. It is damn near impossible to get any kind of fix that gives responders and relief agencies the tools for future disasters.

    And while we are talking about books, here's a good, short one that every elected official should read (even though the authors use the term natural disasters):
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  8. deb4rockets

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    U.S. rocked by four 1-in-1,000-year storms in less than a week

    Climate change is making severe storms both more common and more intense.


    First the river rose in Texas. Then, the rains fell hard over North Carolina, New Mexico and Illinois.

    In less than a week, there were at least four 1-in-1,000-year rainfall events across the United States — intense deluges that are thought to have roughly a 0.1% chance of happening in any given year.

    https://share.google/gPkCQHubGDnT0k53h
     
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  9. ROCKSS

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    We are a Country with some a small attention span, just like any other crisis this will slowly fade from the news cycle and will be replaced by something else. There were so many failures, building those cabins way to close to the river, the one older gut who was killed had been talking about flooding for years,there were talks to do something better with the alert system. All talk about the "what if" and eventually the "what if" happened and it ended in tragedy, I can't imagine the families dealing with having their children killed like this or the husband who lost his wife, the wife who lost a husband...............I dont know if anything would have changed the outcome, but I guarantee a lot of folks who lost loved ones will ponder that for the rest of their lives. To many times, communities, companies and even taxpayers don't want to pay for something until something like this happens........its just sad beyond belief
     
  10. DaDakota

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    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1482928146208609

    Video of Kerrville people denying $10.5m in funding from Biden to set up alarm system.

    Obama had also allocated money for it, and these MORONS denied it because they didn't like that it came from Democrats.

    Well, now that a flood happened, they basically KILLED CHILDREN with their ignorance.

    DD
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    It's sad really. Sometimes people would rather cut off their own foot to save their face. Politics can kill people, when they vote against things meant to help them, just because they hate the party offering them help.

    One woman at the meeting said...

    "If you vote to keep Biden's money, I will hold you personally responsible and personally liable for any and all harm that comes to me and my family, as well as the residents of this county."
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    It's not just Kerrville though. So many people in red states have put themselves in line for more harm than good by believing in Trump.

    FEMA Is Eliminating Hazard Mitigation Programs, Leaving Americans Nationwide at Risk as Disasters Worsen

    Without these programs, the vast majority of federal funding for disasters will be spent on response and recovery after disasters occur and in the places they occur, rather than attempting to reduce costs through predisaster mitigation—even as events such as floods and wildfires become more frequent and more damaging as a result of climate change.

    Predisaster mitigation not only saves lives, but it’s also a good investment: studies by the National Institute of Building Sciences (PDF) and the US Chambers of Commerce find that hazard mitigation programs can generate benefits of between $6–$13 for every dollar invested.

    The scale of the cuts in ruby-red Louisiana -- 34 grants totalling $185 million -- prompted the state's Republican senior senator, Bill Cassidy, to publicly condemn the decision to cancel the program.

    "We passed BRIC into law and provided funds for it," said Cassidy in a speech on the Senate floor in April. "To do anything other than use that money to fund flood mitigation projects is to thwart the will of Congress."

    There's an interactive map on here to click on each state. It makes no sense to deny funding to better prepare an area prone to flash flooding, earthquakes, hurricanes, and such before history repeats itself, and tragedy and loss happens again.

    I'm just including a screen shots, but below, but you can find your state on the map in the article link.

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    https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/fe...s-leaving-americans-nationwide-risk-disasters
     
  13. deb4rockets

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    I just quoted one example in the article below, but this type anger goes all across the heartland of Trump country.

    FEMA's storm prep program hammer communities that voted for Trump

    A CBS News investigation found two-thirds of counties that have lost funding from this FEMA program supported President Trump in the 2024 election.

    The mayor of Central -- a community of about 30,000 outside of Baton Rouge -- Evans and his family were forced to evacuate their home by boat in 2016 when flooding from torrential rains destroyed 60% of the structures in town.

    "Flood water doesn't discriminate," said Evans, a Republican and supporter of President Trump. '"Any person that flooded is shocked that it would be considered politics to do flood mitigation."
    So when he received word in April that FEMA was canceling a grant program that would provide nearly $40 million for a new flood control system in Central, he was angry.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/femagrantcuts/
     

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