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[Big beautiful bill] MAGA add 6 trillion dollars in debt while kicking off 17 million off Healthcare

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He didn't get anything back, he is a poser.....a broke assed piece of cuck that is on this site pretending.

    DD
     
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  2. astros123

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    These folks are so pathetic. @tallanvor claimed that Trump made his life better cuz ending DEI would give him a better chance at promotion at work lmao. Blaming DEI for having a shitty job is peak MAGA.

    These losers are a bunch of insufferable cucks who blame immigrants for all their problems when in reality theyre just a bunch of losers
     
  3. Andre0087

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    Eh, take a break for the day, a few beers, good friends and BBQ will have you right as rain. I'm not watching any news for the rest of the holiday weekend, if it all burns while I'm enjoying my 3 day weekend so be it.
     
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  4. tallanvor

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    I made no claim it would help me get a promotion. getting rid of DEI means i don't have to hire or work with unqualified people who got the job because of their ethnicity. Their lack of skills meant I and others had to cover for them. This has stopped once we got rid of our DEI hiring policies at the company i work at.
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    How much turnover have you had in the last 6 months?
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They were hilarious wrong, not even they could imagine that Trump would add $8 trillion to the nation debt his first time. I am sure Trump will do more this time around.

    But hey, why should you care? High interest rates and inflation doesn't hurt you does it?
     
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  7. tallanvor

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    On my immediate team of 10 people, we have hired two in last 6 months. On my larger team of probably around 50, i'd guess 6 maybe 7.
     
  8. Deckard

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    From the Houston Chronicle:
    By Chris Tomlinson, Columnist July 4, 2025

    Texas philanthropist slams Trump’s nonprofit cuts: ‘It’s devastating’
    The Trump administration has roiled the philanthropic community, but funders and nonprofits are finding their feet, the father of fracking’s heir says.

    The first six months of the Trump administration have roiled the philanthropic community on the same scale as the COVID-19 pandemic, but funders and nonprofits are finding their feet, the heir to a Texas oil and gas fortune told me recently.

    Cuts to foreign aid, scientific research, food programs and health care are forcing family foundations to strategize on how best to support the causes that are important to them, said Katherine Lorenz, the granddaughter of Cynthia and George Mitchell and the president of their philanthropic foundation.

    “It’s devastating,” Lorenz told me in an interview. “I think it remains to be seen, in the medium and long term, how philanthropy will respond to this, because it is a complete catastrophic change in how it’s been done.”

    Lorenz and I spoke as the U.S. Senate debated government spending over the next decade. In order to pay for trillions of dollars in tax cuts, President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress slashed spending that allowed nonprofits to address the world’s biggest problems.

    “We’re never going to re-create the last 10 years of how philanthropy is being done. We actually need a whole new normal,” Lorenz said. “I’ve thought a lot about, ‘How do you make change when you don’t have such a strong philanthropy and nonprofit sector? ’”

    Billionaire George Mitchell is best known for developing the technique of hydraulically fracturing shale to extract oil and gas, known as fracking. He was also an ardent conservationist, responsible for developing The Woodlands Township as an example of sustainable urban design.

    Mitchell and his wife, Cynthia, were original members of The Giving Pledge, a community of wealthy people who promise to give away the majority of their wealth during their lifetime or in their wills.

    Since 2011, Lorenz has overseen the Mitchell Foundation, which gives away about $20 million a year and hopes to do more. The philanthropy focuses on water, land, clean energy, subsurface energy and sustainability, education.

    “I had about two years between when I started the role and he passed away to spend a lot of time with him understanding what it is he did want, what it was he didn’t want,” Lorenz said.

    In May, Time magazine named Lorenz one of the nation’s top 100 leaders in philanthropy. Editors recognized her leadership of the Next Gen Giving Pledge, which brings together more than 300 heirs of people from around the world who signed the Giving Pledge.

    The Mitchells provided a strategic vision for the foundation, but they left the tactics to their heirs to work out. They had 10 children and 27 grandchildren, and like any family, Lorenz said, there can be disagreements.

    “If you all learn together, you end up more on the same page,” Lorenz said. “So, anytime we’re about to make a really big decision about something, we do a lot of learning together as a family so that we’re kind of coming in with more of a shared base of understanding.”

    Philanthropy, like all things, cycles through trends. Lorenz said microfinance was the hot topic when she started working in Oaxaca, Mexico, over 20 years ago. Since then, philanthropists have promoted effective altruism, venture philanthropy, donor-driven projects and trust-based giving as the best ways to do good.

    Many people question why billionaires and their descendants get to decide what causes to support and how. Progressives want higher taxes on the wealthy and believe elected officials should redistribute the wealth according to community values.

    Conservatives tend to want lower taxes and greater reliance on philanthropists to solve the world’s problems. The Trump administration’s cuts to food, housing and health programs will hurt millions of families.

    “Some people might argue that it’s not the role of the government to ensure that everyone has a roof over their head and a meal to eat. But I would like to live in a country where they do,” Lorenz said. “Most Americans have decided, it seems, that that’s not the role we want our government to play. … Changing that system is kind of beyond the scope of philanthropy, if you ask me.”


    Indeed, voters in the last election chose politicians committed to shrinking government. But it’s not clear voters understood Republicans would cut health insurance for Americans, slash funding for starving babies overseas, and bankrupt arts organizations.

    Lorenz said she and her philanthropic peers can’t make up for the government’s cuts.

    “It’s not just a matter of ‘write a little bit bigger check this year.’ It’s entire organizations disappearing, entire infrastructure being erased,” Lorenz said.

    The cuts will hurt more people than most realize.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bu...udget-cuts-hit-philanthropy-hard-20415658.php







     
  9. snowconeman22

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    Trump didn't get rid of DEI

    It is still front and center for many universities and schools , I'm sure many businesses still have their DEI page up on their website .

    Even companies like Walmart that are scaling back still have pages on their website like this

    https://corporate.walmart.com/purpose/belonging

    So IDK what you mean by "got rid of DEI"
     
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  10. heymak

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    When hospitals are shutdown unnecessarily people of those communities will be exposed to risk they didn't know would exist. I grew up between a corn field and a bean field in the middle of nowhere, served 14 years in the Army and currently live in South Korea, tell me again how I don't understand risk. The issue is the creation of unnecessary risk.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

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    False. The number added by Trump the first time was $2.4 trillion over 3 years... so under $1 trillion per year. Then COVID hit and $3 trillion were added because he had to save the country from financial disaster -- which was done. Biden's four years showed deficits of $2.772 trillion, $1.376 trillion, $1.695 trillion, and $1.833 trillion. FAR MORE than Trump -- and this was all post-COVID. Biden's profligate spending is what stimulated all the inflation that crushed the working class.

    GOOD DAY
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Thank you. It's not all about driving to the closest city for your regularly scheduled cancer treatment.

    Think about any and every emergency situation - from car wrecks to heart attacks to everything - that treatment will be delayed by hours due to transportation.
     
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  13. astros123

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    I don't understand. If you're so certain in your propaganda take the wager?

    Deficit goes down next year I'll ban myself from the forums
    If deficits go up then you ban yourself?

    Do you MAGATs not believe in the propaganda you post here?
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    Happy July 4th to all! What a day! Signing the legislation that will provide rocket fuel for economic growth and prosperity for ALL -- and celebrating the 249th anniversary of the birth of our nation!

     
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    Prosperity for all unless you're one of the 17 million people who are losing their insurance. Braindead cultists
     
  16. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Please share who these 17 million people are and when they would lose their health insurance? This claim is dubious at best -- dishonest at worst.

    You are on the clock.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Trump approved over $4 Trillion for COVID and over $4 Trillion for non-COVID which includes his tax cuts. About double what Biden approved. You are being silly.

    Look, you need to wake up. This playbook of Trump is exactly how other modern dictators consolidated power.

    You pick a group no one likes and is an easy target - illegal immigrants. You build a system to remove them out of the country (aka ethnic cleansing)
    Then you expand to all groups that you don't like. It's much easier now because you build all the infrastructure and organization. You have a massive army of ICE to go around picking people up. You have the detention center and prison camps in Sudan, El Salvador and in Florida. Russia will likely help too. Then you just start capturing people in vans as you clean out anything non-white. Not all at once, but just the slippery slope.

    Now, here's where you are really stupid, I hate to tell you. Because you aren't white. You'll get to stick around...until the end game which gets particularly violent. The rich non-whites will have it worst - they always do, because not only will they take you, but they will want your wealth, so your class will be done last - they want your support now and don't wnat you to use your power to resist. No, once everyone else is gone, your turn comes. But history shows that when it comes to the elites of the class that loses, they don't get put in prison, they lose their heads. You and everyone you are connected to, will be slaughtered.

    That's how this works.
     
  18. astros123

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    Jesus christ man. Do you even have any idea whats in the bill they signed? They rolled back the medicaid expansion from ACA and they removed all enhanced ACA subisides which over 30 million individuals rely on. Do some reading and stop embarrasing yourself. You sound unhinged

    https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-...ate-republicans-tax-bill-medicaid-health-care
     
  19. astros123

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    If Trump just did tax cuts that would be bad but eliminating all renewable subsidies at a time when 90% of all new electricity that came onboard was generated by solar/wind last year is INSANITY. Why in the hell would we go to war with whats working and instead introduce new subsidies for coal?

    Future generations are going to look back at this specific year and shake their heads in disbelief. We had a pathway to tackle climate change and MAGA doubled down on fossil fuels and went to war with solar/wind. Insanity
     
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  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You don't get what's happening either.
     

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