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[Big beautiful bill] MAGA add 6 trillion dollars in debt while kicking off 17 million off Healthcare

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, May 12, 2025.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Snake-Flag! Fake libertarians do.
     
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  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It was, the government invested in the development of it, that is literally the type of things governments should do, invest in the countries future at levels private industry can't.

    You chose your moniker correctly at least.

    DD
     
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    this brainless buffoon doesn’t even know what’s going on…he’s just the low IQ face of this movement while people behind the scenes try to push through their devilish ideas

    Trump is just the useful POS with no morals that gets them votes
     
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    Ezra Klein's podcast about the bill was interesting. Trump's populist instincts - preserving Medicaid, Social Security, etc. - run afoul of Republican orthodoxy that demands tax cuts for the wealthy. He, as a rich man, also likes tax cuts.

    Turns out there isn't a lot of spending that people want to see cut because there isn't that much waste. It's why DOGE was a sideshow. If a society wants things like health insurance and social security then it has to raise revenue, via taxes, instead of tripling-down on trickle-down.
     
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    But how will bezos pay for his $50 mil wedding ??
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    They need to touch all of those, plus the military.
     
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    There is no better way to raise overall tax revenue than to put money in people's pockets and grow the economy
    . Just like what happened with Trump's first tax cuts in 2017. It's a proven formula... and the partisan CBO refuses to acknowledge the economic growth this bill will bring... and btw the CBO's track record of projections is atrocious.

    Or did you think the only way to grow tax revenue is to increase the rate? Wow if so.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    I'll tell you the only thing that's growing: my bar tab at the Mexico City Four Seasons. It isn't easy keeping los hombres de negocios happy
     
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    Ive always disproven this lie by posting gdp growth post 2017 tax cut scam.....2019 had lower gdp than 2017. Your braindead propaganda doesn't work.

    @El_Conquistador I'll wager you the USA wont see 4% gdp growth next year. If it does I'll stop posting for 4 years and if doesn't you quit posting?

    You claimed we'd have 5% so I'm giving you a break
     
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    Edit: proven formula, for stagflation.
     
    #772 Ubiquitin, Jul 3, 2025 at 7:27 AM
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    Trump, who did not believe the 2020 election vote counts, also does not believe the CBO scoring on his Big Beautiful Bill. A real shocker!!!
     
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    (Bloomberg) -- Gamblers are raising the alarm about a $1.1 billion tax hike buried in the Senate GOP’s tax bill that would slash their net winnings and potentially charge income tax when they break even or lose money.

    In the Senate’s roughly 900-page version of President Donald Trump’s multitrillion-dollar tax bill, gamblers would only be able to deduct 90% of their losses when calculating their net income. Under current law, a bettor can deductthe entirety of their losses, up until the amount of their gambling winnings.
     
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    This is HISTORIC legislation that will avoid the largest tax increase in history and put an extra $13,300 per year in each middle class family's pocket. Border wall FUNDED. Newborn savings accounts FUNDED. Military FUNDED. Low cost forms of energy PROTECTED.

    If you like keeping more of your paycheck, wealth creation, a secure border, a strong military, and cheap gasoline -- then you will LOVE this bill.


    GOOD DAY
     
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    Traitor George keeps on publicizeing his willful ignorance.

    the only thing that Traitor George knows about economics is that he doesn't understand it.
     
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    Unbelievable, but sadly, believable.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/...ytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

    At least Murkowski sold out the country for whaling captains and other Alaska perks. You know, something tangible that wasn't completely selfish. These House guys are about to kill (more) people for praise from and face time with dear leader and crappy swag. Not a cult though, right?
     
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    The White House is planning a July 4th signing ceremony for this historic legislation. Amazing.

    This legislation will fuel a GOLDEN ERA of prosperity and wealth creation for all classes (poor, working, middle, upper, and Industrialist) in the country.


    GOOD DAY
     
  19. Ubiquitin

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    2026 cannot get here soon enough.
     
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    Another thing I love about this BBB legislation is an expansion of the ABLE savings accounts for those with disabilities. Trump taking care of the disabled. This bill has benefits for literally everyone.

    Definition

    An ABLE account, or Achieving a Better Life Experience account, is a tax-advantaged savings account designed for individuals with disabilities. These accounts allow individuals to save and invest money for disability-related expenses. ABLE accounts are a key resource for enhancing financial independence and quality of life for people with disabilities.
     

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