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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. The Beard

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    Sure would be nice to see Shea get some at bats in the big leagues to see if he could help us this year

    But it's not gonna happen
     
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  2. Nick

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    It’s clear they don’t think he has another level against MLB pitching… same conclusions they came to with Loperfido and Wagner.

    If anything, they’re trying to preserve whatever perceived value he may have by “hiding” him… but they also still need warm bodies in case the entire team gets the flu or all has broken ribs concurrently.

    And he obviously has ‘perceived’ value given by the clamoring for him… and its not like this team shies away from playing young players or players with limited talent/upside right now (Hummel’s/Trammel’s)… and he can’t even usurp them.
     
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  3. Nick

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    Because there is a line and those who have crossed it have been banned… and only re-instated after they die.

    And the only way you get caught/banned is if there is a whistle-blower that leads to an investigation… and then all your past egregious transgressions get further magnified.

    If Luhnow was completely innocent, nobody would hesitate to offer him a job right now.
     
  4. raining threes

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    You're right.

    Hinch/Luhnow/Cora/Beltran/Red Sox video guy (LOL)

    Luhnow's the only one that got banned.

    Money, changing the game and the bleeps in the media got what they wanted. Neat thing is Luhnow built this thing so well that none of what Manfred did mattered, the train keeps on rolling down the tracks. I dont see that train slowing down anytime soon as long as they keep the pitching and that's totally on Crane and what he wants to do. I'm thinking even if Crane lets Framber walk that he will spend money in FA on pitching next offseason.

    Are you the guy that doen't like doing what it takes to build a dynasty being a mid market team? There's a reason this city has never really had a winner before and a reason the Stros became a winning org under Luhnow.
     
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  5. Nick

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    Ok. Again, you’re the only one digging in on this take.

    It’s been 6 years. The league is worse off financially than it was during that time period and about to face a lengthy work stoppage despite just coming off a Yankees-Dodgers World Series (that had lower ratings than the Astros WS’)

    The story was exploited because they had a whistle blower along with a former team beat writer who was specifically targeted/jaded by Luhnow (and had an upcoming book to promote), Houston has limited local media to offend or fight back, and they were faced with ultimatums that weren’t just based on the scandal.
     
  6. raining threes

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    Digging in?

    LMAO

    Again I'll ask you do you have an issue with what Luhnow did to bring a winner to this city that they had never had before?
     
  7. Nick

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    He was banned because of his tactics… and nobody in all of baseball has questioned that or tried to vouch for some sort of reinstatement. Not even the people he helped get their current jobs. Doesn’t that say something?

    Also, i’m not sure what your point is? Yes, he produced some major/significant results… but he was fired/banned because of who he was, what he did, how he handled people/situations, and ultimately there’s not even a whisper of a possible pathway back… in a sport that has welcomed back severe PED users, domestic abusers, open racists, drunks, and illicit drug users.

    Maybe you should take that as a sign…or else yes, you’re digging in.
     
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  8. raining threes

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    He wasn't doing anything differently when it came to cheating than other clubs were. You dont see the hyporcrisy there. Pretty much he was banned because he did things differently when it came to leaving no stone unturned when it came to winning. This rubbed the MLB power brokers the wrong way. Also the fact that he kept receipts when it came to reporters that disagreed with his methods of rebuilding turned off MLB power brokers. (I agrred with him keeping receipts) He's banned because Manfred wanted to get rid of him and the way he did business. Why else dont you think a MLB owner wouldn't hire the best GM in MLB by far? I'm not digging in,

    I'm giving you my opinion, and you still didn't answer my question. I want to know where you stand. I'm just glad Luhnow finally brought a winner to this town and Manfred/You etc... can kiss the rings that Luhnow has given this town. Also I'm not surprised that Luhnow has built a winner in an Adult Kickball League. His methods work when it comes to winning. Seems to me that you disagree with his methods?
     
  9. Nook

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    Yes - but it is balanced with the cost. Also the Astros have been talking about making several trades internally… if the Astros add a power bat and Mullins is the second bat, then his addition looks a lot more impressive. He also is potentially a platoon option.
     
  10. raining threes

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    No doubt an OF with Cam/Jake/Mullins it it would be a great defensive OF. Also the only real weakness on the team defensively would be Altuve at 2B.
     
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  11. Nook

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    No one is going to lobby for Jeff Luhnow because they don’t want to be black balled and the word has been out. Luhnow didn’t play nice with the MLB investigation and fall on the sword like Hinch did - which is why Hinch is back.

    I don’t agree with everything Luhnow did, I was a very vocal critic of the Osuna trade because the case against him was so bad (although he is back with his wife as of like a year ago). However Luhnow wanted to win as much as anyone in baseball and he was innovative and extremely good at his job.

    As for the reporters - whatever, I don’t care 7 years later. Domestic violence is a serious problem. The guy with the Astros that made the comments had his career ruined and will never be in big league baseball again.

    On a side note - MLB has to their credit taken domestic violence very serious the last 6 or so years. Urias, Bauer and Osuna all have lost their careers as teams were told to stay away.
     
  12. Nook

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    The Astros would have won a World Series without a wife beater - but the Cubs would not have.
     
  13. raining threes

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    So Osuna is back with his wife? This story had a happy ending for everybody but Luhnow/Taubman.
     
  14. Nook

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    I don’t know about a happy ending - Osuna beat her badly in that hotel and she had a low level of education and was poor.. she was very dependent on him financially

    Osuna too had a very rough upbringing Mexico. The two families got together and attempted to have a situation where they would get back together.

    Osuna went to therapy and his wife made statements in Mexico about wanting MLB to forgive him because that’s how he supports his family.

    He now is a star in Japan and signed a lucrative contract. He has kids from at least two women I know of.

    Guy is like 29 years old or something and ruined his career.
     
  15. Nick

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    I’m pointing out that he is banned and yet you continue to stump for him as if it will somehow get him unbanned?

    Also your conspiracy theories don’t outweigh the more level-headed facts. Owners won’t hire him because he’s banned and not available. They can petition on his behalf (like you are, apparently), but they won’t do that.

    I’ve let it go. Apparently you haven’t. Good luck with your therapy here.
     
  16. Nick

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    Agreed. I was there. Recap not really needed for myself… but other conspiracy theorists may need a refresher?
     
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  17. MAstroS

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    Wish there was an option to block all posts that mention Luhnow.
     
  18. tellitlikeitis

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    So I guess I missed yet another re-litigation of Jeff Luhnow's tenure here.

    All I can say is there are still elements of this fanbase that really need to let go of Jeff Luhnow.

    Yeah, he's the architect and all and I thank him for his service, but he ain't here anymore and he's long since moved on with other endeavors.
     
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  19. raining threes

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    LMAO, like what I say is going to get him unbanned. I was just giving you my thoughts and you went here.
     
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    They're still together and he's still got a job that I assume pays pretty well in Japan.
     

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