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[ Unconstitutional War] US joins Israel in declaring war on Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Jun 12, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    I think you're a good individual with good intentions yet don't grasp the incompetence and corruption in the administration. They first claimed the report was true about not destroying their facilities but did a 180 when Trump threw a fit.

    The entire USA government has one objective and only one objective. Its to make trump happy and they'll twist any evidence to do so



    Like why is Trump lying about the uranium not being moved when its a common known fact and the Europeans confirm it as well. They just lie 24/7 non stop
     
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  2. lionaire

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    Guys Iran’s nuclear facilities are still intact but calling the mission a failure is actually really mean to our servicemen ;(

    This genuinely feels like a scene out of a movie and I mean that in the worst way possible.
     
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    I sincerely dont understand how every American isnt demanding answers. The government is literally lying and its just ignored.

    America fell off so quick
     
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  4. Ubiquitin

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    From CNN:

    The Trump administration want to give Iran $30 billion for a 'civilian nuclear program,' easing sanctions, and freeing freezed assets to bring Iran 'back to the negotiating table.'
     
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    After intel briefing to Congress:

    Cotton: "I will say it was not part of the mission to destroy all their enriched uranium"

    Graham: "I don't know where the 900 pounds of highly enriched uranium exists"
     
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  8. Amiga

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    If true, it's desperation time. Not a good sign
     
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    Please feel free to change "German" to "whoeveryouwant"
     
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    What an amazing deal Trump made with bombing iran. Truly art of the deal
     
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    @Reeko its just crazy how Israel likes to cosplay as the victim when they bomb everyone.

    Bomb Gaza => bomb Syria => bomb Lebanon => war with iran => back to bombing Lebanon.

    Why are we paying for this ****?
     
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    Do they have any reason to blow up the Golan Heights? I'm just trying to think of places they haven't bombed yet.
     
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    I'm sure Trump's stupid idea to poke the bear by posting a parody video of bombing Iran on his Truth Social site Tuesday didn't help one bit. All he does is give Iran more incentive to retaliate some way down the road, when least expected, be it weeks, months, or years. But, Trump will continue doing stupid stuff on social media, because he just can't stop himself. He has no self-control whatsoever.


    Here's some of the lyrics from the old Beach Boys parody song he posted that was made during the times of the Iran hostage situation. He posted it after we bombed Iran, and while he seeks a peace agreement...

    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb
    Bomb Iran
    Let's take a stand
    Bomb Iran
    Our country's got a feelin'
    Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

    Went to a mosque, gonna throw some rocks
    Tell the Ayatollah, "Gonna put you in a box!"
    Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
    Bomb Iran
    Our country's got a feelin'
    Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

    Ol' Uncle Sam's gettin' pretty hot
    Time to turn Iran into a parking lot
    Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
    Bomb Iran
    Our country's got a feelin'
    Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran

    Call the volunteers; call the bombadiers;
    Call the financiers; better get their ass in gear
    Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb
    Bomb Iran
    Our country's got a feelin'
    Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran
    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
    (Let's nuke 'em! Whoo!)

    This guy thinks he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. :eek: Trump's acts like a full fledged idiot psycho doing this kind of crap in the process of negotiations. He always adds fuel to the fire. It's just in his nature to provoke others, stir up hate, and incite violence.

    Trump’s twitter-fingers reportedly could have put his bombing of Iran at risk

    https://share.google/iitfqKQE9Ov27JOYW

    The worst part about Trump is his pathological lying, echoed by his brown shirts. We can never trust what they call the truth.
     
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    Iran should say no. The flashy number hides that it is capitulating sovereignty to the Gulf monarchs.

    Israel still has terrorists on the ground in Iran doing targeted attacks. Even if the bombs stopped flying over head, the conflict is not over.
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...eople-liberty-prosperity-israel-iran-missiles

    The Iranian people were starting to win their battle for liberty and prosperity. Then Israel attacked

    Missiles follow trajectories. So do countries. And over the past few days, Israel’s attacks have dramatically changed Iran’s trajectory.

    Some believe that Iran was already on a downward spiral and that Israel’s actions will simply accelerate the descent. In an op-ed published on Monday, several of Iran’s most prominent civil society figures, including Nobel peace prize laureate Narges Mohammadi, declared that the “only credible path to safeguard [Iran] and its people is the resignation of the current leadership”. In this view, the war could be construed as a deliverance – Israeli officials are openly suggesting that their operations could lead to regime change in Iran. But if Iran’s decline was already precipitous, why are ordinary Iranians terrified by the outbreak of war? Why have they not welcomed Benjamin Netanyahu as the saviour he imagines himself to be?

    The answer is that Israel is harming, not improving Iran’s trajectory, the arc of which had recently been bent upwards through the persistent efforts of the Iranian people. Iran has long undershot its potential, held back by a sclerotic and oppressive government that has failed to undertake necessary reforms. Yet despite many headwinds, the country has been experiencing slow but steady improvements in its political, economic and social conditions over the past few years. Iran’s people have been successfully pushing back against the authoritarian tendencies of the leaders in Tehran. Now they have been thrust into a war devised by an authoritarian leader in Jerusalem.

    When the hardliner president Ebrahim Raisi died in a helicopter crash a little over a year ago, Iran’s political establishment reconsidered whether the authoritarian consolidation that had taken place during his term had been worthwhile. Manipulation of elections and brutal suppression of protests had left Iran’s ruling elite distrusted and unpopular. Iran’s current president, Masoud Pezeshkian, was elected to repair Iran’s social contract. His first speech as president included an important admission. “We make promises, and we fail to fulfil them,” he said, acknowledging the degraded legitimacy of the Islamic Republic. Less than a year into his tenure, and until the fateful events of the last few days, Pezeshkian had made some modest progress in trying to regain the trust of the electorate.

    Iran’s leaders have had to acknowledge the power and perseverance of Iranian women, who mobilised during the Women, Life, Freedom movement in 2022 and never looked back. When the Iranian parliament passed a draconian mandatory veiling law late last year, Pezeshkian described it as an “unjust law”, a confession that the Islamic Republic will itself remain unjust so long as it fails to protect the rights of women. No longer a fringe issue, women’s rights are now at the forefront of the fight for political renewal in Iran.

    Pezeshkian had also presided over a modest economic recovery, though he does not deserve credit for it. Despite the pressure of US sanctions, Iran’s economy had returned to growth, owing to the resourcefulness of the managerial class and resilience of the workforce. But in recent months, inflation rebounded, and the country was rocked by major protests over controversial fuel subsidy reforms, underscoring the need for better management of the economy. On Monday, Iran’s parliament confirmed Seyed Ali Madanizadeh, a young economist trained at Stanford University and the University of Chicago, would become economy minister. In an interview last week, Madanizadeh stated that economic reforms “are not something that can happen without bringing people on board and opening up a dialogue with the public”.

    But it is in the space of foreign policy that Iran’s course has altered most dramatically. Six years of intensive dialogue with regional neighbours, especially the UAE and Saudi Arabia, has led to renewed ties. In just the last few months, Tehran hosted the emir of Qatar, the diplomatic adviser to the president of the UAE, and the defence minister of Saudi Arabia. The new regional policy was summed up by the Iranian foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, when he stated: “Our neighbours are our priority.”

    Even Iran’s relationships with its proxies have changed. Iran moderated its support for the Houthis as part of a deal reached with Saudi Arabia in March 2023. More recently, the fall of Bashar al-Assad and Israel’s hobbling of Hamas and Hezbollah were strategic setbacks for Iran. But these events also gave rise to a robust debate among Iran’s national security leaders about whether the “forward defence” strategy, rather than making Iran more secure, had given rise to anti-Iranian sentiment across the region, while still leaving Iran vulnerable to attack.

    Finally, and most consequentially, Iran was negotiating a nuclear deal with the US. The seriousness of these negotiations should be underlined. President Donald Trump tore up the nuclear deal in 2018 at a time when Iran was in full compliance with its commitments. He reimposed sanctions, pushed Iran’s economy back into steep recession, and brought the region to the brink of war by assassinating Gen Qassem Suleimani in January 2020.

    Not long after Trump was inaugurated for his second term, Iran’s supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, called negotiations with the United States “unwise”. But senior officials, including Pezeshkian, Araghchi and parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, pushed back. They may have done so because of personal convictions, but they probably recognised that the Iranian people are tired of enmity with the US, which has left Iran isolated and embattled.

    The first round of negotiations took place on 12 April. Four subsequent rounds were conducted in just two months – the progress was evident enough that even Israeli officials were briefing journalists that a deal between Iran and the US was “likely”. A sixth round of negotiations was slated to take place on Sunday in Oman. Those talks were cancelled after Israel’s attacks, which Trump cheered.

    The Iranian people have struggled for over a century against forces of authoritarianism, which can seem endemic in the Middle East. At numerous junctures, foreign intervention has undermined their efforts. In 1911, a constitutional revolution was crushed with the intervention of Russian troops. In 1953, Iran’s elected government was ousted in a coup engineered by the CIA and MI6. In 1980, the course of the Islamic Revolution was altered when Saddam Hussein invaded Iran. In 2018, Trump withdrew from the nuclear deal, dooming Iran’s once influential and popular reformist movement, which had staked so much on the promise of sanctions relief.
     
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    Amazing.
     
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    intriguing

    Rocket River
     
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    A ceasefire with the zionist state means you cease and they fire.

     
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    Trump has supported the two war criminals leading Russia and Israel the entire time they've been bombing hospitals left and right, and killing thousands of innocent women and children. I'm not sure what kind of blackmail Putin has on Trump, but knowing how far back they go it probably involves underage girls like Epstein was trafficking. It's something big, that's for sure. Trump will always save himself before anyone else, and evil leaders know that.
     
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