There were super toxic Sengun fans from Türkiye in his first year, but they quickly got weeded out and the ones that left are not toxic at all. I've stated this fact on many occasions, so seems a weird angle to come at me like I'd ever suggested anything any different. But you do you I guess.
Cool, glad to hear that's how you feel. I was honestly curious as to your opinion since it wasn't made clear and I have no reason to read the vast majority of what you post. Not sure why you are getting offended but you do you I guess.
He may be skipped to another team draft night. I've posted how Jalen Green had better numbers than Booker from 3 and defensively. And yet they are debating paying Booker $75M per year for two yr extension. Better off going with younger Green; but yes the Suns are not a good franchise. If Jalen ends up with a team that is top 10 in 3P%....I have no doubt his numbers would go through the roof. Hartenstein is quicker than Sengun and does all the little things like rebound and set screens; but he can't stay on the court in the playoffs. Averaged 19 minutes in the WCF and now 19 minutes in the finals. You can't win a championship with Sengun making so much money and expected to be a top 3 option on offense......teams in the playoffs take advantage of them and find an open 3.
Hopefully the Jalen stans understand how little Ime and Stone believed in Jalen. They already tried to trade him to Brooklyn the first season Ime was here. And now they traded him at 23 for a 37 year old KD. If they thought it was likely Jalen was going even get close to living up to his "potential" there's no way they make this trade. The entire league is letting you know what they think of Jalen. On top of all that, you absolutely know Ime did not want to give up Dillon. Think about that...We all know Ime LOVES what DB brought to the team.... But they pulled the trigger on the deal just to finally get Jalen out of here. If you are really a Rockets fan, just be glad he is gone now instead of them having to give fake excuses to the media again and trying to salvage his value. Nobody wanted him now...Just imagine him being a year older, putting another year of data out there showing he's not a good player.
This is coming from one of the card-carrying Jalen fans, so I think I'm being far. I'm reading a comments on reddit and stuff that says that we're gonna regret trading him for KD, what happens if he becomes a superstar, etc etc...but I disagree. The truth of the matter is, no matter what he becomes and how good his future will be--he wasn't that for us. It doesn't matter what his future outside of Houston is because the data we have available to us RIGHT NOW showed that he wasn't the guy we needed him to be. If he was, then he'd still be a Rocket. I'm truly bummed he didn't become a star with us, but this change of scenery may be good for him, and KD will DEFINITELY be good for us. And shoot, if he really does pop off on the Suns or wherever and he realizes his potential, I'd be glad. But as a Rocket, his tenure was definitely a mixed bag. Also, I think I owe a tip jar bet to Bobby, damnit.
Jalen needed this. He was obviously too comfortable, and that's because until this year he never got called out for his bullshit. Udoka sat him at the end of games too many times to count, and he still didn't really seem to get it. His inefficiency and inconsistency cost him his career in Houston. Maybe this will open his eyes, or maybe he just legitimately can't help it. Either way, this should be good for him. I still believe in the guy and wish him the best.
Will be interested to see if he ever puts it all together and becomes a consistently efficient scorer. No denying he had some tantalizing highs at a young age, but the overall averages were always a bad sign.
Lmao, despite the Playoff performance, his 4th year was arguably his most productive allround year aside from scoring. It was an up and down show mostly but it is not like he really sucked the last year. He has to solidify his bench role first .....humble himself. If he works like SGA or Wemby, good things will happen......works on the right things.
You are right lol, It actually was his best year but that playoff performance I think sunk it. If suddenly he was hot Jalen for the playoffs we're not having this discussion right now. The biggest thing was his mentality. I don't think Jalen is lazy or a bad teammate or anything but he was content with have 4 point games. I said that series, you would not see a player like Antman or SGA or you name the scorer, settle for having multiple games with 10 or less points. That player will be shooting the rock like crazy because their pride will be "No way this team is stopping me." and Jalen didn't have that dawg in him. Sengun did. Like yeah he had his ups and downs the series, but you could see him still trying to do what he did, it just wasn't working against Draymond. Thats why I wasn't even mad at that game winner he took, bad shot, but it told me he had that mentality of "F Draymond, I'm going to score a game winner on him right now IDGAF." and thats what I wanted Jalen to do after getting dogged by media and fans game after game during that series I wanted to see him just go nuclear and prove everyone wrong...but more importantly, I wanted to see him TRY. I saw that from other players. I saw Amen put everything into a desperate game 7 run to bring us back into the game before having a minor injury. I saw Jabari hitting big shot after big shot. I saw all these guys trying to put their stamp on the series...Jalen didn't. He had that one game and it looked like he was content with that. I think the main thing for Jalen is his mentality needs to change, he needs to play with a fire and passion constantly and with the confidence that he can't be guarded. Right now, he plays with the mentality of a role player. Like he'd be cool averaging 13ppg. He'd just say that's what coach wants me to do, while true, this is why star players clash with coaches all the time. You ain't never finding a coach that's going to tell Ja they are taking the ball out of his hands, that coach is getting fired. Sengun plays with that fire and passion, makes a ton of mistakes, but you can tell Sengun goes out there most nights trying to put up 30, 15, and 10. Amen said he takes it personal if someone scores a point on him. We saw that when Herro started barking about scoring on him and what Amen did. This is why these two guys are still on the team and Jalen isn't. Ime is a real one, he knows what he sees, and I think Ime wants hungry players who want more and are not content with what they have. Jalen wasn't lazy, but I do think he was content. Maybe this season will give him that hunger to be great, I guess we will see.
If they really wanted him gone two years ago and had zero faith in him, why would they have given him a 3/$106M extension last summer when they could have waited to give him that?
Not extending him would drastically drop his value and will make it harder to trade for something of real value.