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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Reeko

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    always fading away or off-balance

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    These coaches the players spend money on are definitely full of ****. Why is he not just doing a floater?
     
  3. Francis3422

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    Working on the floaters, more of a stop and pop or going full speed to the rim and having to find your best bail out pass Should be his priority.
     
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  4. Dobbizzle

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    Those videos of training are the opposite, he's just doing more of the same crap he's been doing where he tries to keep them on his hip for a bump off, but then that move isn't the shot he then does another move and then stops, and then does a fade away. They're not teaching him how to work, they're teaching him how to "do moves that look good." He should just beat his man from that first step, not slow down for the useless hip bump and either perfect a floater, or I dunno, maybe realise he's one of like 5 people in the league athletic enough to jump right over a mother****er and do that instead. Takes balls though sadly.
     
  5. Jontro

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    players should be paying donkey green for their summer workouts. pay him $50k a day to defend them like it's game 6 of the wcf (the games where he flagrant fouls and get suspended). these midgets holding a padded stick won't do much help.
     
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    Sunk cost.
     
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    Often has best wing defender on him. I posted him practicing mid range yesterday and I almost
    commented that the coach was keeping pad low. This video is much better.....pad high like a
    6'9" Jaden McDaniels guarding him.

    Only way we get SF's from guarding Jalen Green predominantly is to have a SF that demands
    attention on the drive. An Ariza 3 & D guy can have Steph Curry guarding them. No fear
    of them driving. And that is how teams are guarding us.....nobody fears Dillon, Tari or Jabari drives.

    This is why I've pushed for a Jerami Grant, John Collins, Trey Murphy, Cam Johnson type for months
     
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  8. A_3PO

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    Whether he's on the Rockets or elsewhere going forward, Jalen must do the following going forward:

    1 Tighten his handle so he can consistently beat guys off the dribble. He either needs a pick (which often doesn't work) or he must receive the ball in motion moving towards the basket. I think he has a decent first step (could be wrong) but he can't misdirect and blow by defenders like a 6'4 185 lb SG should be able to because he can't dribble and protect the ball well enough.

    2 He must learn to relish contact and accept getting fouled while shooting not only as a win, but the best result.

    3 I know this will never happen, but he's gotta play more within his actual capabilities instead of what he aspires to. Specifically, shot selection. The reason a lot of NBA players have poor efficiency is their insistence on taking shots beyond their shooting ability. I think if Udoka cracked down on Jalen and took away his freedom to take any shot he wanted, his efficiency would jump.

    4 Simultaneous with the previous point, Jalen should become VERY active off the ball, wear down his defender and generate open catch-and-shoot and cut to the rim opportunities. The Rockets cannot allow him 5-6 isolation shots per game where nobody else touches the ball because he just flat out isn't good enough.

    If course he needs to become stronger and a better shooter. That goes without saying. IMO, if he only did the four points mentioned above, Jalen would have a breakout year.
     
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    Yeah, Jalen and Jabari offseason workout videos are so stale now after 2-3 years. Jabari's jumper always looks so sweet and Jalen does whatever against some guy with a stick and pads. Then they come back as nearly the same player doing the same things wrong.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    .....keeping up with the Greenians.

    Those 2 guys should light up the Summer League again.



     
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    Doing fancy moves against nobodies has never been an issue with Green. It's the lack of fundamentals and basketball sense that have always been an issue
     
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    The real issue is he provides what a 6th man does, microwave production in spurts or he is scoring in single digits.

     
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    He did this stuff for 4 years. Nothing new here. It is equivalent to Sengun posting videos of hesitation from 3 pt as summer work out.
     
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    His IG training story today, is getting open in the paint within 5-7ft pausing, and then shooting a contested 2. It should've been a floater.

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    Up top, this was in my draft for a full day. Didn't want to sound like a bat **** crazy hater but now that I've seen smart people say "he should've done a floater" I ****ing agree.
     
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    At a minimum he should stop fading
     
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  16. daywalker02

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    I think that mentality to score in the hardest possible way is never going to fully go away...... with his skinny body.

    Maybe he turns into Mr. Big Circus Shot or maybe not.

     
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    Jalen Green is such a feminine dude. Posting for the gram lookin ass. Hope we trade this bum
     
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    I think we are overblowing things to a bit of an extreme level.

    If he was reaching rfa this off-season, even after his dud of a playoff series, i think brooklyn throws 25m per year at him to try and steal him.
     
  19. Dobbizzle

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    Nah you were definitely right and not a hater. I don't even think it's him, these trainers are just teaching bullshit and not how to actually play good offense. His biggest strength bar none is his speed and they have him slowing down to get the defender on his hip and meandering back and forth in the paint - that's a FVV style of play, you do that when you're undersized but don't have the speed and bounce to go past/over somebody. For Jalen he should almost never be doing those moves, there's what 3, maybe 4 people faster than him in the league? One of them is on our roster too, so his advantage is actually huge if he could ever learn to use it. It should always be 1 simple quick move to get past his man (AI, not Harden - because again, Jalen's super fast) then the next decision is about the help defender either 1. Too slow, so go past them. 2.Too small, go over them. 3.Too big, throw that floater up before they get a chance to close. 4.Too close - pass to the open guy they just left. This is basics for athletic point guards, which makes me wonder if playing as a SG so long has just ****ed his entire decision making process. At no point is the "good" decision "slow down, stop dead then fade away without even creating contact." I grew up as an athletic PG who wasn't a great distance shooter (money from the line though lol, about the only place I could shoot well without layup or dunks) and that's literally the basics. That and the basic pick and roll/pop were the first things we were ever taught. I just find it crazy that these are pros earning millions and they never even learned the easy/simple/basic stuff.
     
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    Hopefully in a few hours this wont be our issue anymore.
     
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