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Terror in Kashmir: 26 Dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Apr 23, 2025.

  1. Salvy

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    Your dumb ass keeps saying a ceasefire was broken, Trump helped them establish peace and they ****ed it up.... Now you want to blame Trump for their actions.. Sit down man, you ain't right...
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Or maybe Trump got ego stroked by people who had no intention of a cease fire like he usually does. Amazing how many cease fires he brokers that end as soon as he leaves the room.
     
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  3. Invisible Fan

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    If you give away your tell that you don't want war then there's no teeth in threats to punish the wrong doers or keeping the peace. No one liked US as a policeman but they accepted it because everyone else just stood, watched then complained a little that someone should do something about it.

    He buried Hong Kong protestors with apathy in his first term while telling xi in private that he'd do nothing . Ended up with a useless toothless deal and some bribes licensing deals for his daughter.

    Lobbing missiles at Houthi pirates is lower than Obama level red line diplomacy.
     
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  4. adoo

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    IIRC

    Xi fast-tracked the approval for
    • copyright for Ivanka's fashion/jewelry brands
    • Trump-branded spa and escort services
     
  5. tinman

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    Breh woke mind virus people ..
    Tell them their favorite word

    palestine
    Palestine
    Palestine

    that should calm them down
     
  6. No Worries

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    This conflict will change how future air battles are waged, Top Gun is gone, BVR and system air battle era is here now. No wonder China's J20 only have missiles and no guns, they foresaw this more than a decade ago.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Yea, I think the whole world was watching and letting this go on to learn from it more than anything
     
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  9. Buck Turgidson

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    It's been that way for decades with "fire and forget" air-to-air missiles. The only reason to have guns is for ground support missions.
     
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  10. Nook

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    There is a lot going on - there is a lot of nationalism in India with the Hindi's and Modi. I have a number of Indian friends in the USA that have fallen prey to it as well. There is a sense of wanting to make all of India Hindi and all Indians to unite. This can be very bad because it can lead to war, and there are no shortage of possible candidates in that part of the world.

    I think the future is bright for India - as long as it does not go down this nationalist path that will lead to war and inevitable economic failure that comes with authoritarian regimes.
     
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  11. Nook

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    I am not saying what the proper course if for Indians as I am not Indian and I do not live in India.

    Having said that - I know what authoritarianism is, and why media and information is limited by a government and it is to control the population of people within its borders.
     
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  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is how batshit crazy and war hungry many in India have become. In the next decade they will give the islamists a run for their money in being the biggest threat to peace

     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    Speaking of aircraft and such, I give you Donald J. Trump, aviation genius:

    “An F-35 has a single engine; I don’t like single engines,” Trump said, before gesturing to GE Aerospace chief executive Larry Culp. “Even this man, he’s the best in the world at engines. But on occasion, I know you won’t admit this, if an engine goes out, it’s nice to have two, three or four. That’s why I like the 747, it’s got four.”
    ...
    “Sometimes, you know, stealth, they do stealth,” Trump said. “I’m not a huge believer in stealth, because stealth is basically, a lot of it’s the design and the shape. … You’re going to design an ugly plane for stealth reasons. And then six months later, they’re going to figure out this, and then you’re stuck with a plane.”


    https://www.defensenews.com/air/202...n-experts-baffled-by-trumps-fighter-comments/
     
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  14. Ubiquitin

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    You thought it was over:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...-indus-water-treaty-with-pakistan-2025-06-21/
    India says it will never restore Indus water treaty with Pakistan

    NEW DELHI, June 21 (Reuters) - India will never restore the Indus Waters Treaty with Islamabad, and the water flowing to Pakistan will be diverted for internal use, Home Minister Amit Shah said in an interview with Times of India on Saturday.

    India put into "abeyance" its participation in the 1960 treaty, which governs the usage of the Indus river system, after 26 civilians in Indian Kashmir were killed in what Delhi described as an act of terror. The treaty had guaranteed water access for 80% of Pakistan's farms through three rivers originating in India.

    Pakistan has denied involvement in the incident, but the accord remains dormant despite a ceasefire agreed upon by the two nuclear-armed neighbours last month following their worst fighting in decades.

    "No, it will never be restored," Shah told the daily.

    "We will take water that was flowing to Pakistan to Rajasthan by constructing a canal. Pakistan will be starved of water that it has been getting unjustifiably," Shah said, referring to the northwestern Indian state.
     
  15. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is an act of water to he honest, India is run by a bunch of fanatics. If you’re having to build dams and plan on altering the flow of water to cause famine it’s pretty ****ing evil, no matter what cause you have.

    India needs to get rid of these crazies in their govt, they are playing with fire
     
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  16. Ubiquitin

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    I think Pakistan is doubling down in its alignment with the US while the remaining great powers are doing what they do by isolating India. India has no allies.
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    It sounds like too strong of a negotiation tactic, and let’s be real it will never happen because India knows deliberately (by building dams) depriving water from a nuke neighbor with a sizeable military force, even if it wins a war…is a war that will set it back decades

    making this kind of move is probably greater than threatening weapons of mass destruction


    To the last point, India’s biggest flaw is that it doesn’t realize it isn’t in the same class as 1st world countries. It is trying so hard to force that angle when clearly its society and economy are still backwards af
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Water will be the resource war of the next century.

    Pretty sure I said this a decade ago.
     
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  19. basso

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    many people are saying this is the crux of the Israeli/Palestinian issue.

    Hamas disagrees
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    To be clear: I mean "next century" as in next 100 years...not 2100 and beyond
     
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